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#1 2010-01-17 18:24:16

Lucario621
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Have pen color and shade for black

It seems that if I set the pen color to black, for an art project, it works. But once I use the shade block, it turns to shades of red. This gets me very frustrated...

I'm suggesting that the scratch teams fixes this....


http://i.imgur.com/WBkM2QQ.png

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#2 2010-01-17 18:25:25

ThePCKid
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

Lucario621 wrote:

It seems that if I set the pen color to black, for an art project, it works. But once I use the shade block, it turns to shades of red. This gets me very frustrated...

I'm suggesting that the scratch teams fixes this....

That doesn't happen to me!

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#3 2010-01-17 18:37:51

Lucario621
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

ThePCKid wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

It seems that if I set the pen color to black, for an art project, it works. But once I use the shade block, it turns to shades of red. This gets me very frustrated...

I'm suggesting that the scratch teams fixes this....

That doesn't happen to me!

1. Not scratch paint.

2. Here's an example:

Code:

set pen color to [black]
set pen shade to 50
clear
pen down
[forever
-go to mouse pointer]

When you do it, why is the trail left by the sprite red?


http://i.imgur.com/WBkM2QQ.png

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#4 2010-01-17 18:40:18

ThePCKid
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

Lucario621 wrote:

ThePCKid wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

It seems that if I set the pen color to black, for an art project, it works. But once I use the shade block, it turns to shades of red. This gets me very frustrated...

I'm suggesting that the scratch teams fixes this....

That doesn't happen to me!

1. Not scratch paint.

2. Here's an example:

Code:

set pen color to [black]
set pen shade to 50
clear
pen down
[forever
-go to mouse pointer]

When you do it, why is the trail left by the sprite red?

On my computer it's blue!

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#5 2010-01-17 18:41:42

Lucario621
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

ThePCKid wrote:

Lucario621 wrote:

ThePCKid wrote:


That doesn't happen to me!

1. Not scratch paint.

2. Here's an example:

Code:

set pen color to [black]
set pen shade to 50
clear
pen down
[forever
-go to mouse pointer]

When you do it, why is the trail left by the sprite red?

On my computer it's blue!

That's interesting...


http://i.imgur.com/WBkM2QQ.png

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#6 2010-01-18 01:43:12

Jonathanpb
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

It's red for me...  hmm

I think you should have posted this in Troubleshooting, Lucario.  wink


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#7 2010-01-18 10:24:02

Lucario621
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

@Jonathanpb:

Lucario621 wrote:

I'm suggesting that the scratch teams fixes this....

But yeah sure I guess....


http://i.imgur.com/WBkM2QQ.png

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#8 2010-01-18 11:23:19

mathematics
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

It seems that the problem is from the shade block.

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#9 2010-01-18 11:27:24

Lucario621
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

mathematics wrote:

It seems that the problem is from the shade block.

Exactly...


http://i.imgur.com/WBkM2QQ.png

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#10 2010-06-15 19:07:57

owetre18
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

black is (very)dark blue on my computer so it might be red on yours

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#11 2010-06-16 00:00:04

mathematics
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

This is a bumped topic, again.

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#12 2010-06-16 15:02:15

Wolfie1996
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

Support! Support! Support!  big_smile  Even though this is an old topic - I want it! And a shade for white, and all the grey shades - it would help when making paint editors and such!  big_smile


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#13 2010-06-16 23:16:03

mathematics
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

But on my computer it's red!

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#14 2010-06-17 01:20:47

Chrischb
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

The fact that it changes between computers makes it worse.  big_smile


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#15 2010-06-17 02:51:19

MyRedNeptune
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Re: Have pen color and shade for black

Actually, the changing colors thing is easy to explain.

It depends on your current pen color, or, more specifically, the current color number index. I've noticed that it is only possible to set the shade of colors that have set number indexes. Black, as well as grayscale colors, doesn't have a number in Scratch, so when you set the shade to 50, it has to choose between the colors with available numbers, which are basically all the colors of the rainbow, from red to red. It probably picks the color that was previously in use, or just a random one.

Think of it this way: in Scratch, a color only has hue (the color value itself, different for different colors of the rainbow) and lightness (the amount of white or black in a color). Grayscale colors cannot be achieved through change of hue, because they are not colors of the rainbow, but are shades of desaturated versions of those colors. Therefore, in order for grayscale colors to be possible to achieve through modification of other colors, Scratch must have another value: saturation - the amount of "color" in a color.

But so far, it is impossible to change the shade of black in Scratch. Sadness. D:


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