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#26 2009-11-27 20:09:49

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Re: Remove top remixed

I support. Did you know that those "add your _________" projects only came into being after top remixed was made?

andresmh wrote:

1. Remix chains. These are very interesting because I think they started to be popular only after we put Top Remixed on the front page. These are the kind of projects that ask people to add something and remix or to support some cause by remixing.


(from http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=22286)

Also, on a somewhat unrelated topic, you know how top loved is now "What the Community is Loving"? How come top remixed didn't change?


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#27 2009-11-27 20:27:45

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Re: Remove top remixed

greenflash wrote:

I support. Did you know that those "add your _________" projects only came into being after top remixed was made?

andresmh wrote:

1. Remix chains. These are very interesting because I think they started to be popular only after we put Top Remixed on the front page. These are the kind of projects that ask people to add something and remix or to support some cause by remixing.


(from http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=22286)

Also, on a somewhat unrelated topic, you know how top loved is now "What the Community is Loving"? How come top remixed didn't change?

It would be: What the community is remixing... Weird...


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#28 2009-11-28 00:22:06

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Re: Remove top remixed

Please add me to the list.

Here's what I think:

It's just a way to find out what remix chains are the most popular at the moment. Scratch was built for easy remixing, but that's not what was wanted - what they wanted was creative remixes. Adding your anthro/character/whatever is not creative at all.


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#29 2009-11-28 00:47:20

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Re: Remove top remixed

Of course I support it! It's just an easy way to find the most popular remix chains!

I was thinking about suggesting this a few days ago...

Chrischb wrote:

It's just a way to find out what remix chains are the most popular at the moment. Scratch was built for easy remixing, but that's not what was wanted - what they wanted was creative remixes. Adding your anthro/character/whatever is not creative at all.

Exactly.


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#30 2009-11-28 02:42:16

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Re: Remove top remixed

Aye me support too the top downloaded was better then top remixed

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#31 2009-11-28 03:19:50

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Re: Remove top remixed

fanofcena wrote:

Aye me support too the top downloaded was better then top remixed

That's a good point!

I do miss the Top Downloaded. *sniff*  sad


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#32 2009-11-28 11:17:06

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Re: Remove top remixed

Why did they delte top downloaded? Was it because people downloaded their own stuff? Because if they did that, their computer would be really slow!


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#33 2009-11-28 11:31:04

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Re: Remove top remixed

Well, I would of agreed with taking off "Top Remixed" but then I thought. If they took off that section then It would seem like Collaboration projects are discouraged. I think the Top-Remixed section is great because it teaches others how to work with each other. Without it Collaboration would be partly hard to do (In a way...). Sorry about not going with majority.  cool

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#34 2009-11-28 11:56:13

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Re: Remove top remixed

gettysburg11 wrote:

Ah yes, I would like Top Remixed ousted from the front page. I'm pretty sure the Scratch team saw good when they came up with it, since they support remixing, but I'm afraid it hasn't worked. What they saw then were people remixing great games into greater games. What we see now are projects saying "add yurself duin a dance" projects that have absolutely no value to anyone except those people who are desperate to get popular and make one of those projects to get front page.

Exactly what I think, I agree.

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pinochio wrote:

guyman55 wrote:

its jsut dumb to make top remixes to get on boards makes peeps jelous

I have no idea what you just said. Can someone translate?

yoz man i totullaz fosizzle undastanderz yuz guyman555 nah just kidding  tongue
i think he says...It's just dumb to make projects that get on the front page on front wah? uhhh peeps jealous umm ....i quit tranlating this! its impossible!!!!! ahhh!!!!

What he meant was that it's just dumb to encourage remixing to get in a board, since it makes people jealous.

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#35 2009-11-28 12:05:50

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Re: Remove top remixed

DawnLight wrote:

Well, I would of agreed with taking off "Top Remixed" but then I thought. If they took off that section then It would seem like Collaboration projects are discouraged. I think the Top-Remixed section is great because it teaches others how to work with each other. Without it Collaboration would be partly hard to do (In a way...). Sorry about not going with majority.  cool

Thats exactly what i think, which is why we are proposing a 'featured remix' section  smile


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#36 2009-11-28 12:07:57

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Re: Remove top remixed

DawnLight wrote:

Well, I would of agreed with taking off "Top Remixed" but then I thought. If they took off that section then It would seem like Collaboration projects are discouraged. I think the Top-Remixed section is great because it teaches others how to work with each other. Without it Collaboration would be partly hard to do (In a way...). Sorry about not going with majority.  cool

I think you're mistaking collaboration with possibly something else, because collaboration is working as a team to make a project, but Top Remixed is only really used for Remix Chains, and contests.


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#37 2009-11-28 12:08:44

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Re: Remove top remixed

pinochio wrote:

DawnLight wrote:

Well, I would of agreed with taking off "Top Remixed" but then I thought. If they took off that section then It would seem like Collaboration projects are discouraged. I think the Top-Remixed section is great because it teaches others how to work with each other. Without it Collaboration would be partly hard to do (In a way...). Sorry about not going with majority.  cool

Thats exactly what i think, which is why we are proposing a 'featured remix' section  smile

Even if the "Featured Remix" section is applied it will be the same thing it is just the name of the section will change.

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#38 2009-11-28 12:10:58

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Re: Remove top remixed

DawnLight wrote:

pinochio wrote:

DawnLight wrote:

Well, I would of agreed with taking off "Top Remixed" but then I thought. If they took off that section then It would seem like Collaboration projects are discouraged. I think the Top-Remixed section is great because it teaches others how to work with each other. Without it Collaboration would be partly hard to do (In a way...). Sorry about not going with majority.  cool

Thats exactly what i think, which is why we are proposing a 'featured remix' section  smile

Even if the "Featured Remix" section is applied it will be the same thing it is just the name of the section will change.

No. Because the scratch team would feature Collaborations, which are never on top remixed.


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#39 2009-11-28 15:33:59

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Re: Remove top remixed

I agree with The_whiz. There should be a "featured remix" section.


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#40 2009-11-28 15:36:06

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Re: Remove top remixed

Rainstorm2 wrote:

I agree with The_whiz. There should be a "featured remix" section.

Do you agree with removing top remixed?


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#41 2009-11-29 02:20:33

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Re: Remove top remixed

pinochio wrote:

Rainstorm2 wrote:

I agree with The_whiz. There should be a "featured remix" section.

Do you agree with removing top remixed?

I still like the idea, but a Featured Remix section sounds promising. It could take the Top Remixed's place.

How often would it be updated, though?


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#42 2009-11-29 04:16:43

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Re: Remove top remixed

Weekly? Something like that? Take the best remix of a featured project and put it under the original project...

Get rid of top remixed, agreed.


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#43 2009-11-29 09:54:23

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Re: Remove top remixed

Chrischb wrote:

pinochio wrote:

Rainstorm2 wrote:

I agree with The_whiz. There should be a "featured remix" section.

Do you agree with removing top remixed?

I still like the idea, but a Featured Remix section sounds promising. It could take the Top Remixed's place.

How often would it be updated, though?

I would say once every week. 3 projects that are interesting to remix, chosen by the scratch team for other people to remix!


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#44 2009-11-29 10:09:55

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Re: Remove top remixed

I agree! Projects like "Add your character dancing!" are really pointless. I also thing that there should be a "Featured Projects" row. Agreed 100%!


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#45 2009-11-29 12:14:37

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Re: Remove top remixed

scratch_yoshi wrote:

I agree! Projects like "Add your character dancing!" are really pointless. I also thing that there should be a "Featured Projects" row. Agreed 100%!

Exactly!


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#46 2009-11-29 12:29:34

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Re: Remove top remixed

I agree, top remixed should be removed. That is, unless people start remixing good games to make greater games, or a really clever "add yourself". I just make "pointless projects" for the fun of it, not to get top remixed or anything.

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#47 2009-11-29 21:54:53

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Re: Remove top remixed

somelia wrote:

I agree, top remixed should be removed. That is, unless people start remixing good games to make greater games, or a really clever "add yourself". I just make "pointless projects" for the fun of it, not to get top remixed or anything.

Well said. The Top Remixed would be a very good section to have only if the projects were those that inspired creativity. Not scribbling your anthro/character/whatever in a few minutes.


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#48 2009-11-29 22:03:19

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Re: Remove top remixed

Chrischb wrote:

somelia wrote:

I agree, top remixed should be removed. That is, unless people start remixing good games to make greater games, or a really clever "add yourself". I just make "pointless projects" for the fun of it, not to get top remixed or anything.

Well said. The Top Remixed would be a very good section to have only if the projects were those that inspired creativity. Not scribbling your anthro/character/whatever in a few minutes.

Agreed! Which is why featured remix would work perfectly! I also think they could replace suprise projects with top remixed...


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#49 2009-11-29 22:12:17

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Re: Remove top remixed

pinochio wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

somelia wrote:

I agree, top remixed should be removed. That is, unless people start remixing good games to make greater games, or a really clever "add yourself". I just make "pointless projects" for the fun of it, not to get top remixed or anything.

Well said. The Top Remixed would be a very good section to have only if the projects were those that inspired creativity. Not scribbling your anthro/character/whatever in a few minutes.

Agreed! Which is why featured remix would work perfectly! I also think they could replace suprise projects with top remixed...

Um... you swapped it.

Don't you mean "replace Top Remixed with Surprise Projects"?


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#50 2009-11-30 07:57:02

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Re: Remove top remixed

Chrischb wrote:

pinochio wrote:

Chrischb wrote:


Well said. The Top Remixed would be a very good section to have only if the projects were those that inspired creativity. Not scribbling your anthro/character/whatever in a few minutes.

Agreed! Which is why featured remix would work perfectly! I also think they could replace suprise projects with top remixed...

Um... you swapped it.

Don't you mean "replace Top Remixed with Surprise Projects"?

Oops. I get confused sometimes  tongue


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