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pinochio wrote:

archmage wrote:

Well, Nostradamus did give a lot of pretty specific details about Hitler.
Read the part about the proof of Hitler's rise and fall
http://www.spartechsoftware.com/dimensions/mystical/nostradamus.htm

Here are some things he accurately predicted:
-Hitler was born in western Europe to poor parents
-He charmed crowds with his oratory skills
-Specified the USSR as being his adversary
-Predicted the rise of his book
-Many people died
-Accurately predicted his age at 55 years 10 months
-The amount of concentration camps
-The fall of Germany to the USSR

Nostradamus is complete rubbish.

I can predict random stuff to, and there are HUGE odds they will happen...

Ok, but can you predict such specific details such as the ones I listed that Nostradamus predicted?

I am not saying that I believe 100% that the world will end in 2012. What I am trying to say that in my opinion the strongest evidence to support the world ending in 2012 is Nostradamus' predictions. Anyone can just say that a bad person will kill many people in the future but Nostradamus gave many details in to this person which further support its accuracy.

adriangl wrote:

archmage wrote:

pinochio wrote:

Nostradamus is complete rubbish.

I can predict random stuff to, and there are HUGE odds they will happen...

Ok, but can you predict such specific details such as the ones I listed that Nostradamus predicted?

I am not saying that I believe 100% that the world will end in 2012. What I am trying to say that in my opinion the strongest evidence to support the world ending in 2012 is Nostradamus' predictions. Anyone can just say that a bad person will kill many people in the future but Nostradamus gave many details in to this person which further support its accuracy.

What if it wasn't Hitler? What if he was talking about someone else?

If it was someone else, Nostradamus still predicted the future, it would be us who were mistaken on who he was predicting about

adriangl wrote:

archmage wrote:

pinochio wrote:

Nostradamus is complete rubbish.

I can predict random stuff to, and there are HUGE odds they will happen...

Ok, but can you predict such specific details such as the ones I listed that Nostradamus predicted?

I am not saying that I believe 100% that the world will end in 2012. What I am trying to say that in my opinion the strongest evidence to support the world ending in 2012 is Nostradamus' predictions. Anyone can just say that a bad person will kill many people in the future but Nostradamus gave many details in to this person which further support its accuracy.

What if it wasn't Hitler? What if he was talking about someone else?

Yeah, he actually refers to Hitler as "Hister" but all of his details match Hitler.

It would be hard to imagine it being someone else that fits the descriptions Nostradamus gives.

Try naming another person who:
-Lived from 1889 to 1945
-Was born a poor person in western Europe
-Had great oratory skills
-Fought wars with the USSR
-Burned people alive in ovens
-Wrote a popular book to spread their ideas

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archmage wrote:

adriangl wrote:

archmage wrote:

Ok, but can you predict such specific details such as the ones I listed that Nostradamus predicted?

I am not saying that I believe 100% that the world will end in 2012. What I am trying to say that in my opinion the strongest evidence to support the world ending in 2012 is Nostradamus' predictions. Anyone can just say that a bad person will kill many people in the future but Nostradamus gave many details in to this person which further support its accuracy.

What if it wasn't Hitler? What if he was talking about someone else?

Yeah, he actually refers to Hitler as "Hister" but all of his details match Hitler.

It would be hard to imagine it being someone else that fits the descriptions Nostradamus gives.

Try naming another person who:
-Lived from 1889 to 1945
-Was born a poor person in western Europe
-Had great oratory skills
-Fought wars with the USSR
-Burned people alive in ovens
-Wrote a popular book to spread their ideas

I bet there is someone who probably had a life like that...

No, Nostradamus was much more accurate than that. You are correct in saying that anyone can make up vague predictions but Nostradamus was really precise. To take your example, this is how specially Nostradamus would put it.


- A man from Eastern United States born 2009 and died 2100 and 2 months will gain control of the armies of his country by doing... (insert what he did)
-His family was wealthy
- He will start wars with (list specific countrys) and the results of these wars are (list results)
-His name is Mabus (the name of the third antichrist)

But yes, it is easy to misinterpret what he says. There is a group of people who think Obama is the 3rd anti christ because he somehow suits the descriptions and his name sounds like Mabus.

He did not predict the name... And If Obama is the third antichrist mccain is the uber antichrist.

archmage wrote:

adriangl wrote:

archmage wrote:

Ok, but can you predict such specific details such as the ones I listed that Nostradamus predicted?

I am not saying that I believe 100% that the world will end in 2012. What I am trying to say that in my opinion the strongest evidence to support the world ending in 2012 is Nostradamus' predictions. Anyone can just say that a bad person will kill many people in the future but Nostradamus gave many details in to this person which further support its accuracy.

What if it wasn't Hitler? What if he was talking about someone else?

Yeah, he actually refers to Hitler as "Hister" but all of his details match Hitler.

It would be hard to imagine it being someone else that fits the descriptions Nostradamus gives.

Try naming another person who:
-Lived from 1889 to 1945
-Was born a poor person in western Europe
-Had great oratory skills
-Fought wars with the USSR
-Burned people alive in ovens
-Wrote a popular book to spread their ideas

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adriangl wrote:

floatingmagictree wrote:

archmage wrote:

Yeah, he actually refers to Hitler as "Hister" but all of his details match Hitler.

It would be hard to imagine it being someone else that fits the descriptions Nostradamus gives.

Try naming another person who:
-Lived from 1889 to 1945
-Was born a poor person in western Europe
-Had great oratory skills
-Fought wars with the USSR
-Burned people alive in ovens
-Wrote a popular book to spread their ideas

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Okay, that is inappropriate...but funny.

And true. I heard it from this tabloid making fun of people who epicly failed.

Last edited by MyRedNeptune (2010-01-06 17:25:17)

floatingmagictree wrote:

adriangl wrote:

floatingmagictree wrote:

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Okay, that is inappropriate...but funny.

And true. I heard it from this tabloid making fun of people who epicly failed.

That is a true, epic, super, duper, FAIL!

Last edited by MyRedNeptune (2010-01-06 17:25:58)

TheSaint wrote:

I have a couple of questions about Nostrodamus.
1. When did he live.
2. HOW did he make his predictions
3. Give an example of a wrong prediction he made.

I can answer number 3 for you. I also posted this on the 2012 thread by doody.

ScratchX wrote:

Well bout Nostradamus...another reason that he isn't all right because rememebr bout 15 years ago(some of you might not have been born 15 years ago....) that Nostradamus predicted that there will be an earthquake and that earthquake would split California in half and the half will be an island and every body on it will die? Well turns out that there was an earthquake....and it was on the predicted day and guess what archmage? Millions of people jumped off buildings, killed them selves, and killed other people because they thought that it was the end of the world. 1 guy jumped out of his apartment and killed himself. Another family drove out California, burned down their home and found out it wasn't going to happen..so they killed themselves on the road....so Nostradomus could be wrong and i hope the California incident doesn't happen again....on 2012

ScratchX wrote:

TheSaint wrote:

I have a couple of questions about Nostrodamus.
1. When did he live.
2. HOW did he make his predictions
3. Give an example of a wrong prediction he made.

I can answer number 3 for you. I also posted this on the 2012 thread by doody.

ScratchX wrote:

Well bout Nostradamus...another reason that he isn't all right because rememebr bout 15 years ago(some of you might not have been born 15 years ago....) that Nostradamus predicted that there will be an earthquake and that earthquake would split California in half and the half will be an island and every body on it will die? Well turns out that there was an earthquake....and it was on the predicted day and guess what archmage? Millions of people jumped off buildings, killed them selves, and killed other people because they thought that it was the end of the world. 1 guy jumped out of his apartment and killed himself. Another family drove out California, burned down their home and found out it wasn't going to happen..so they killed themselves on the road....so Nostradomus could be wrong and i hope the California incident doesn't happen again....on 2012

Interesting. Whats your source for this? My reason for asking is that if he was always right there could only be two reasons:
1. He was supernatural (unlikely)
2. He is a made up person, such as Odessius, or Achilles.

However, this proves that he is real, and made some prediction, as long as the source is accurate.

adriangl wrote:

Nostrodamus is a real person, you can search wiki, but not at all is he "special". He made assumptions that anyone could make and people believed that he was a prophet.

Exactly how I feel about it...