Scratch

yay you used the little flaming trout guy in ur sig! awesomeness!

im sorry, i just saw this post and i have to say, its kinda funny. i put the best projects of dg games in this forum because one of your team members asked about it. also, i have a business manager outside of scratch working on getting dg games liscensing so we will be an actual company. and finally, i have recieved many awards by scratch developers as one of the greatest scratch companys of all time, so i can back that up and i didnt make it up. unfortunatly i dont keep that many people on my friends list and i dont rememeber who did what, lol. i am a very nice guy to talk to, but if you want to say something about my company, get your facts straight first.   

fireball123 wrote:

ChaoticD wrote:

lol, i think this it so funny. ( i laugh quite alot, LOL) honestly, im not sure if i completly agree with FantasyTales list, we all have good games, but i think our greatest games are (hold on, im cleaning out MY deleated projects from the gallery, lol, i delete alot) ok, here is MY LIST OF OUR BEST GAMES.

created by deltalord. http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/deltalord/424998

created by The_Flamining_Duck. http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/The_Flaming_Duck/591390

created by Keroro645. http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/keroro645/507783

created by ALL DG GAMES MEMBERS, and my person favorite so far. http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/ChaoticD/641206

and a game currently being developed only by ChaoticD, that will be a group project in the future. http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/ChaoticD/754153

As far as i am concerned, these are the most well working, well developed, and fun games we have created so far. Our current group project is RAIN OF MERCY which will change what people think of scratch forever. I am currently working on my long awaited JDI game which will be 100x bigger than RAIN OF MERCY. others are working on games confidential so they can surprise everyone when they get released.

sincerly, Leader and Game Designer, ChaoticD

A good slogan, but you haven't really impressed me, *3d tennis has, and he's not even rubbing it in people's faces. Actually this isn't even a TRUE company, you just hired some good programmers, then they put the DG logo on there games. FT incorporates artists, programmers, and think tanks. If anything, FT also incorporates HUMILITY. I don't see FunkyMonkey going to the DG gallery and start bragging about his company, I just see you...  As for your ONE company project well, thats not even complete. I suggest that before you go change how people think of scratch or go bragging about how good you are, or how big your company is, have the projects to back it up.

* 3d tennis is a game by RHY3756547         


ChaoticD also said:
(this is halarious, so your the people FT keeps talking about, LOL!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA. you seriously underestimate MY game company, lol. since i first joined scratch, i had the dream of making games you could only imagine on scratch, since then, i have made that dream a reality with DG GAMES. most of my personal accomplishments are still in production and have been in production for 2 years to make sure everything is perfect, my members are trying there very best to do what they do best, art, script, voicework, ect. and with our official website up and running, i seriously doubt your going to take MY position of best game company on scratch away. the last company that said they were gave up 2 weeks ago. LOL)

Who said you were the best company? How there been an OFFICIAL (or at least an unbiased) contest that gives you that title? What? There hasn't? Then ChaoticD was making that up? oooh this not look good. You also might want to remove that too.


yours-Fireball123

fireball123 wrote:

ChaoticD wrote:

im sorry, i just saw this post and i have to say, its kinda funny. i put the best projects of dg games in this forum because one of your team members asked about it. also, i have a business manager outside of scratch working on getting dg games liscensing so we will be an actual company. and finally, i have recieved many awards by scratch developers Who? still no mention of a contest... Plus when was this? now? as one of the greatest scratch companys of all time, so i can back that up and i didnt make it up. unfortunatly i dont keep that many people on my friends list and i dont rememeber who did what, lol. i am a very nice guy to talk to, but if you want to say something about my company, get your facts straight first.   

fireball123 wrote:

A good slogan, but you haven't really impressed me, *3d tennis has, and he's not even rubbing it in people's faces. Actually this isn't even a TRUE company, you just hired some good programmers, then they put the DG logo on there games. FT incorporates artists, programmers, and think tanks. If anything, FT also incorporates HUMILITY. I don't see FunkyMonkey going to the DG gallery and start bragging about his company, I just see you...  As for your ONE company project well, thats not even complete. I suggest that before you go change how people think of scratch or go bragging about how good you are, or how big your company is, have the projects to back it up.

* 3d tennis is a game by RHY3756547         


ChaoticD also said:
(this is halarious, so your the people FT keeps talking about, LOL!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA. you seriously underestimate MY game company, lol. since i first joined scratch, i had the dream of making games you could only imagine on scratch, since then, i have made that dream a reality with DG GAMES. most of my personal accomplishments are still in production and have been in production for 2 years to make sure everything is perfect, my members are trying there very best to do what they do best, art, script, voicework, ect. and with our official website up and running, i seriously doubt your going to take MY position of best game company on scratch away. the last company that said they were gave up 2 weeks ago. LOL)

Who said you were the best company? How there been an OFFICIAL (or at least an unbiased) contest that gives you that title? What? There hasn't? Then ChaoticD was making that up? oooh this not look good. You also might want to remove that too.


yours-Fireball123

Do you have links? I know you do have an outstanding company, but best on scratch is something different, and the scratch team are very reluctant to say the best of anything, while you are free to make your own opinions, You shouldn't go bragging about the best. Do you also have a group project finished? Rain of Mercy is still in the beginning development phase and orbital shift is probably in the intermediate stage.
FT have already released a major group project, and got many a love its+frontpaged and curated.

Also, you might not want to write LOL! it's rude and makes people annoyed at you. In another sense how can you have a business manager if you aren't making a profit, or sustaining a loss? Doesn't that make having a business manager pointless? Also do you expect your members to switch to the new language for whatever console your working on. Most of your members joined to get an advertising bonus, or work with other talented scratcher, and switching to a new, far more advanced language could easily prompt more then a few to drop out.

Assuming you have made the switch AND turned console, AND have people who know the language, making games on consoles are a lot more complex, and more demanding, the learning curve is also harsher, it would probably take 1-2 years, assuming your members give up scratch. After all of that, how much profit can you expect to make? enough to have someone manage your business? Enough to make the switch worth it. If you don't want profits, then what will encourage your members to stay, and not simply just carry on doing scratch? Or then why do you insist on doing everything so professionally? If not for profit, shouldn't companies be fun, without strict regulations?     

In addition to that, please provide proof of all your wondrous projects you have made, but don't release. If what you say is true, I would only be too happy to eat my words. It's 2010, and I am interested to see how JD is doing. I am still waiting to be impressed and change how I think about scratch.

You should also maybe take another look at your company have no major collab projects out, and your size is only due to the number of employees, I would think on that.

If you want my full unabridged rant, I would be only to happy to email you a copy.

With not hate to DG, I agree completely. Thank you fireball123, for stating what I feel, in your words 

Great speech, I agee 100 %

thanks! I guess debate paid off after all...

I agree with everyone that doesn't agree with ChaoticD. I'd love to see DG Games an official company, but HAVE YOU GUYS EVER MET YET? I mean, fanofcena is in India, FantasyTales  is in Canada (     ), and ChaoticD is in the US. I mean, how could you well, create an actual game company if the members haven't met each other yet? Also, what kind of crazy ADULT would want to join a company led by a KID!?!?!?!?!?!? LOL, now THIS is the real thing that is hilarious. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

@Pinochio: Best wishes. I hope Evil Strings will become one of the best companies (maybe even better than DG) on Scratch. You guys are actually having fun while making your projects.

@Fireball123: You're the man!

@funkymonkey: Hope someday we can work on another project together.

@ChaoticD: Why did you delete my comment on your tutorial? I said nothing mean (compared to what you said)

pinochio wrote:

fireball123 wrote:

ChaoticD wrote:

im sorry, i just saw this post and i have to say, its kinda funny. i put the best projects of dg games in this forum because one of your team members asked about it. also, i have a business manager outside of scratch working on getting dg games liscensing so we will be an actual company. and finally, i have recieved many awards by scratch developers Who? still no mention of a contest... Plus when was this? now? as one of the greatest scratch companys of all time, so i can back that up and i didnt make it up. unfortunatly i dont keep that many people on my friends list and i dont rememeber who did what, lol. i am a very nice guy to talk to, but if you want to say something about my company, get your facts straight first. 

Do you have links? I know you do have an outstanding company, but best on scratch is something different, and the scratch team are very reluctant to say the best of anything, while you are free to make your own opinions, You shouldn't go bragging about the best. Do you also have a group project finished? Rain of Mercy is still in the beginning development phase and orbital shift is probably in the intermediate stage.
FT have already released a major group project, and got many a love its+frontpaged and curated.

Also, you might not want to write LOL! it's rude and makes people annoyed at you. In another sense how can you have a business manager if you aren't making a profit, or sustaining a loss? Doesn't that make having a business manager pointless? Also do you expect your members to switch to the new language for whatever console your working on. Most of your members joined to get an advertising bonus, or work with other talented scratcher, and switching to a new, far more advanced language could easily prompt more then a few to drop out.

Assuming you have made the switch AND turned console, AND have people who know the language, making games on consoles are a lot more complex, and more demanding, the learning curve is also harsher, it would probably take 1-2 years, assuming your members give up scratch. After all of that, how much profit can you expect to make? enough to have someone manage your business? Enough to make the switch worth it. If you don't want profits, then what will encourage your members to stay, and not simply just carry on doing scratch? Or then why do you insist on doing everything so professionally? If not for profit, shouldn't companies be fun, without strict regulations?     

In addition to that, please provide proof of all your wondrous projects you have made, but don't release. If what you say is true, I would only be too happy to eat my words. It's 2010, and I am interested to see how JD is doing. I am still waiting to be impressed and change how I think about scratch.

You should also maybe take another look at your company have no major collab projects out, and your size is only due to the number of employees, I would think on that.

If you want my full unabridged rant, I would be only to happy to email you a copy.

With not hate to DG, I agree completely. Thank you fireball123, for stating what I feel, in your words 

Great speech, I agee 100 %

Last edited by Extremos (2010-01-10 03:53:30)

Paddle2See wrote:

It would be great to see all this energy that is being expended applied to creating more great games instead of trying to tear each other down.  There's room in Scratch for everybody to create- it's not really a competition.  Let's try and keep the conversation polite and maybe focus on cooperation or at least peaceful coexistence, okay?

That's exactly what the FTers are trying to promote. (But with the DG Games members . . . )

RHY3756547 wrote:

OK - here's what I think.

DG is not the best company, nor is Flaming Trout. No company on scratch is the best. If you want the best games company go look up Bungie. Quit arguing.

And please don't use my projects as examples in an argument. 

There is no best company! Bungie might be the creator of Halo, but that doesn't mean it's the best company!    No offense

Extremos wrote:

RHY3756547 wrote:

OK - here's what I think.

DG is not the best company, nor is Flaming Trout. No company on scratch is the best. If you want the best games company go look up Bungie. Quit arguing.

And please don't use my projects as examples in an argument. 

There is no best company! Bungie might be the creator of Halo, but that doesn't mean it's the best company!    No offense

r u sure?

I like Valve, they seem to always know what works.