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Jonathanpb wrote:

Topics don't have to be completely relevant to Scratch. But what about the large amount of topics that don't have anything to do with Scratch at all? Is this right? The statement looks like topics have to have some relevance to Scratch.

What do you think? Personally, I'm disgusted.

Let's go back and examine andresmh's quote, shall we?

This forum is about things that can inspire people to create future Scratch projects even if they are not 100% related to Scratch.

The phrase "not 100% related" could be any percentage besides 100%. This implies that a topic that is 0% related to Scratch is allowed in 'Inspiration and More', insofar that it is not a spam topic and can serve as a potential source of inspiration to others.

I think of the 'Inspiration and More' forums this way: One man's off-topic thread is another man's project inspiration.    I challenge you to find a thread here in 'Inspiration and More' that is (1) unrelated to Scratch in any way and (2) cannot be a potential source of inspiration for a topic.

Last edited by cheddargirl (2009-11-09 00:53:50)

jacool wrote:

I'm sorry but I can't agree with you Martianshark,
As Lucario stated this forum is called inspiration & more, and very many topics fit into the category more.

That's part of the problem. People think that "more" means "post whatever you want!"

cheddargirl wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Topics don't have to be completely relevant to Scratch. But what about the large amount of topics that don't have anything to do with Scratch at all? Is this right? The statement looks like topics have to have some relevance to Scratch.

What do you think? Personally, I'm disgusted.

I think of the 'Inspiration and More' forums this way: One man's off-topic thread is another man's project inspiration.    I challenge you to find a thread here in 'Inspiration and More' that is (1) unrelated to Scratch in any way and (2) cannot be a potential source of inspiration for a topic.

I think there were some examples of that already, such as,"Guess what color shirt I'm wearing!"

martianshark wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

Topics don't have to be completely relevant to Scratch. But what about the large amount of topics that don't have anything to do with Scratch at all? Is this right? The statement looks like topics have to have some relevance to Scratch.

What do you think? Personally, I'm disgusted.

I think of the 'Inspiration and More' forums this way: One man's off-topic thread is another man's project inspiration.    I challenge you to find a thread here in 'Inspiration and More' that is (1) unrelated to Scratch in any way and (2) cannot be a potential source of inspiration for a topic.

I think there were some examples of that already, such as,"Guess what color shirt I'm wearing!"

"Guess what Color shirt I'm wearing" sounds more like a Text-Based game. (And additionally, I'm not finding what thread you are referring to  ).

Last edited by cheddargirl (2009-11-09 01:00:14)

The thread "Guess what shirt I'm wearing" was just an example... it doesn't exist. That should clear things up.

cheddargirl wrote:

I think of the 'Inspiration and More' forums this way: One man's off-topic thread is another man's project inspiration.    I challenge you to find a thread here in 'Inspiration and More' that is (1) unrelated to Scratch in any way and (2) cannot be a potential source of inspiration for a topic.

That's impossible... because anything can be called inspiration. Take the topic called '.'. It was just a dot... but the topic was about "You had trouble getting to this topic, didn't you?". You could always say that it could be inspiration for a Scratch project where you click on pixels, but it's just ridiculous. But everything can be called inspiration truthfully... you just have to use your common sense here. 

cheddargirl wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

I think of the 'Inspiration and More' forums this way: One man's off-topic thread is another man's project inspiration.    I challenge you to find a thread here in 'Inspiration and More' that is (1) unrelated to Scratch in any way and (2) cannot be a potential source of inspiration for a topic.

That's impossible... because anything can be called inspiration. Take the topic called '.'. It was just a dot... but the topic was about "You had trouble getting to this topic, didn't you?". You could always say that it could be inspiration for a Scratch project where you click on pixels, but it's just ridiculous. But everything can be called inspiration truthfully... you just have to use your common sense here. 

Exactly. Any topic can be inspiration if you think about it. So there's nothing wrong with an off topic subject, even if it does not explicitly state it's relation to Scratch (if any) insofar that it follows the terms of use and is not a chatroom or a spam thread. 

You've got a good point, but some things just annoy me. There's a thread called "Did you know..." (Did you know... that's just this:

STOP READING IF YOU LIKE YOGURT!







Did you know that if you put yogurt under a microscope, it moves?
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That's just silly. I agree with you about anything being inspiration if you think about it, but some... it feels like people are using this forum as a place where they can chat, spam, say whatever they like, and come online just to discuss un-Scratch related matters with others.


But I'm partly confused anyway. 

martianshark wrote:

Yes, I agree with you, but I was mostly talking about the really off topic threads, such as,"My new signature!" and "Join my random religion!"

Lol, wouldn't any Religion be considered as random?

The purpose with my topic "You should really consider joining Jacoolism; The good religion" was to make a fun 'Open-Source' Religion, Many users wrote mini stories which were very fun to read, wouldn't that be called inspiration?
Maybe someone got the idea to make small animations to every mini story?

Last edited by jacool (2009-11-09 09:10:25)

Jonathanpb wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

That's impossible... because anything can be called inspiration. Take the topic called '.'. It was just a dot... but the topic was about "You had trouble getting to this topic, didn't you?". You could always say that it could be inspiration for a Scratch project where you click on pixels, but it's just ridiculous. But everything can be called inspiration truthfully... you just have to use your common sense here. 

Exactly. Any topic can be inspiration if you think about it. So there's nothing wrong with an off topic subject, even if it does not explicitly state it's relation to Scratch (if any) insofar that it follows the terms of use and is not a chatroom or a spam thread. 

That is exactly true. What annoys me most though are the topics that are un-relevant to Scratch and are obviously posted just for fun and not inspiration. A lot of the topics aren't posted for inspiration... sometimes you can just tell. 

Well, actually, I think a lot of 'Inspiration and More' topics were originally intended to be posted for fun (very rarely do I find one where the original intent of the discussion is not for fun). Of course chat room topics and topics that encourage spamming are the obvious ones that have been posted for fun without regard to inspiration - but other than that, I think most 'fun' topics are still capable of being inspiration even if the original intent was for fun. 

djm111 wrote:

Jonathanpb wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Exactly. Any topic can be inspiration if you think about it. So there's nothing wrong with an off topic subject, even if it does not explicitly state it's relation to Scratch (if any) insofar that it follows the terms of use and is not a chatroom or a spam thread. 

the topics that are un-relevant to Scratch and are obviously posted just for fun

People need to have fun. If Scratch stops becoming fun, it dies. This is obvious, and you know full well you would not willingly do something you get no pleasure or gratification out of. This forum is for people to chill out and just to discuss. It isn't a source or encouragement of antisocial behaviour, so it follows the Scratch terms of use, so is therefore within its limits.

*pokes head out from behind wall*
What he said ^^

martianshark wrote:

If you are not certain.

Yes if you are not certain, in other words If it is not related to scratch. You’re thinking about it to hard. 

martianshark wrote:

TBG was deleted for the same reason, so why does I&M get to stay?

That was a miner reason, if a reason at all. The biggest reasons where TBG was too much work for the moderators and the second reason, I am assuming, was the amount of inappropriate games that had been showing up and as you would imagine any form inappropriateness has no place on the Scratch website.

Last edited by DavidTy (2009-11-09 18:41:37)

DavidTy wrote:

martianshark wrote:

If you are not certain.

Yes if you are not certain, in other words If it is not related to scratch. You’re thinking about it to hard.

That's not what it means. It means post here if you're not sure if it's 100% related to Scratch. However, most topics today are just plain nonsense that were never intended to be inspiration. 

martianshark wrote:

TBG was deleted for the same reason, so why does I&M get to stay?

That was a miner reason, if a reason at all. The biggest reasons where TBG was too much work for the moderators and the second reason, I am assuming, was the amount of inappropriate games that had been showing up and as you would imagine any form inappropriateness has no place on the Scratch website.

I thought the biggest reason was that it had nothing to do with Scratch. At least that was Jonathanpb's biggest arguement...

Honestly, you guys act like scratch shouldn't have an off topic section at all (you guys as in the people who agree with this). I said it in Google's topic, I'll say it in this:

Look in any popular (even a lot of non popular ones) forum, and you will see "Other" or "General Discussion" or something of that nature. Why can't this be it for scratch?