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To be honest, I don't think that these people are trying to control the Scratch community, people just like their projects, and want to commemorate them. Yes, I agree that oftentimes people with really good projects don't make front page because of art by Maki-Tak, nikkiperson2, etc., but you can't blame them for having fans of their work.

Yeah. dreamcaster's sister is nikkiperson2!

midnightleopard wrote:

Scratch has evolved since it came out, in 07, it was full of simple games. In 08 it was full of everyone trying to make extremely awesome games like porting mario or sonic, in late 2008 doody owned scratch, in early 09 people started making games again, and in late 2009 nikkiperson2 as well as dreamcaster and maki-tack owned scratch.

I have noticed people have been becoming way to powerful on scratch. Nikkiperson2 dreamcaster and maki-tak have been recieving fan art! FAN ART! I saw this project called bob and dave and at the end of the project dreamcaster said: "bob and dave love fan art" He's just trying to get people to make him fan art! I know I've questioned the point of scratch before and was stoned but one person having enough power to make the whole community make fan art is not the scratch way. People have also had usernames like doodylover123 or dreamcasterfan11 or nikkiperson3. Scratch is property of MIT and no bored kid like dreamcaster should try to become king. It's a community where we work together, not a religion where we worship a user for making a picture of a warrior cat with music in the backround. Who agrees?

1. Sorry midnight leapord, this forum is for asking Scratch prgramming questions. A thread like this belongs in Inspiration and More.

2.They aren't controling Scratch, midnightleapord. All they are doing is making quality projects that people like. People make fan arts because they like the characters. The Scratch way is imagine, program, share. That is exactly what they are doing; imagining stuff, programming them, then sharing for the community to see and enjoy.

archmage wrote:

Its only the fault of the designers of this website. They can easily solve the problems by only letting a user get front page a month after their previous front page project.

I agree. I also don't think that 5 second long animations should be on the front page all the time. Maybe a section for animation,games,stories?

fg123 wrote:

True true... How come when I upload a new project, it doesn't show in the Newest Projects...

Because there are thousands of people downloading projects everyday, and only three slots in newest.

In spite of all the Disney movies and parents bedtime fairy tales, this world is simply not a "fair" place. I'm speaking in general and not voicing an opinion about the people you mentioned specifically btw. At any rate, you can either let this get you down and hold you back or else you can accept it and move on. Wanna know why soooo many judges, politicians, company CEOs, etc are crooked, dishonest people? Cause that is where the money is! Kind of like all those people who hack and dupe their way to the 'elite' status in some game. As for anyone getting the greatest amount of attention at Scratch, if its not those people then it will just be someone else. Besides, just exactly what are they accomplishing? Boosting their egos? Whoop-te-do. I have a deviantArt account. They use counters on everyones' pages to display how many people come to your page (supposedly to look at your art.) This would imply that the higher the number, the better your artwork. In reality, you can generate vast numbers of visitors through socializing means regardless of your artistic endeavors. Now, you could get mad about this and boycott the site but then you are only playing their game. Again, go back to YOUR reason for being at the site in the first place.
Lastly, if these people are related, that smacks of some similar "socializing" type method for garnering attention that one of them 'discovered' and passed on to the others. Of course I could be wrong but I don't care enough to find out. You could just give up and join their race by prostituting yourself to anyone who will listen but at the end of the day, what does that make you? Don't let them bring you down brother! Think of the tons of people churning out interesting, quality projects that get overlooked and/or ignored. I see them every day in the "Show and Tell" forums, often with no responses at all. A far bigger 'crime' imho.

midnightleopard wrote:

yeah but they aren't imagin programin sharing there fan arting and worshiping poorly drawn characters that aren't funny. PS they are definately not quality

Maybe this is not quality in your opinion, but many people love the art. I think that fan art is ok to have on the website. I don't like all the popularity, don't get me wrong. But if people want to express their creativity this way, there is nothing we can do but admire it!

lonwol wrote:

I half agree, and half don't. I believe that they arn't trying to take over scratch at all.
But yes i do beleive That scratch users kind of worship the famous ones. Also i noticed when somebody makes something amazing, some [word edited out by moderator] warrior cat picture for some [word censored by moderator] rpg is taken over, and the amazing project is never found.

Hey lonwol, please adhere to the Scratch Terms of Use and use appropriate and respectful language on the Scratch forums.

1. Me and Dream-Caster and Maki-Tak are NOT related. It was a joke that Dream-Caster thought would be funny, but now me and DC are no longer on speaking terms.
2. It's not our fault. people view our projects because they like them. if it were up to me, I would take my projects off the front page; I don't like fame. it isn't fun. at all.
3. I'm sorry that you feel that way; I can't say anything for anyone else, but I'm not trying to 'rule scratch' or anything like that. I just like to animate. Sorry.

adriangl wrote:

archmage wrote:

Its only the fault of the designers of this website. They can easily solve the problems by only letting a user get front page a month after their previous front page project.

I agree. I also don't think that 5 second long animations should be on the front page all the time. Maybe a section for animation,games,stories?

this was debated before, i created a forum post which illusionist based a project off of and his project got front page, nothing really changed though...

nikkiperson2 wrote:

1. Me and Dream-Caster and Maki-Tak are NOT related. It was a joke that Dream-Caster thought would be funny, but now me and DC are no longer on speaking terms.
2. It's not our fault. people view our projects because they like them. if it were up to me, I would take my projects off the front page; I don't like fame. it isn't fun. at all.
3. I'm sorry that you feel that way; I can't say anything for anyone else, but I'm not trying to 'rule scratch' or anything like that. I just like to animate. Sorry.

I understand...sort of. I always thought that you guys liked being popular. I really thout you and Maki-Tak were related! I have nothing against the three of you, though. You are all very knowledged scratchers, and I have to admit, the three of you made some really hilarious projects! I know it isn't your fault though. Keep showing us funny projects please!!!
   

Right! I'll start a word file, write a formal document (let's call it the Constutition... that taken already?) and share it!
We all are equal....... la la la la.