Scratch

darthatr0n wrote:

OS: Windows XP
This doesn't just happen with Scratch. My computer does it randomly. It doesn't happen very often. One time I was playing a game called Motherload and then my computer slowed down and the text started going. The way I fix this every time is to restart my computer by pressing and holding the power button for 4 seconds. VERY ANNOYING!!!

I fixed it by closing scratch (without saving)

I just installed 1.3.1, it didn't happen. 

OS: Windows Vista SP1 Home Prenimum

Last edited by ThePCKid (2009-12-28 19:06:00)

Greatdane wrote:

ThePCKid wrote:

I just installed 1.3.1, it didn't happen. 

OS: Windows Vista SP1 Home Prenimum

So...?

It will after a while. It happens when you don't expect it. I encountered it 1 time  in 1.3.1.

I can't install 1.4 now! 

Chrischb wrote:

Many of us have experienced the disappearing text problem. You're doing your business, and suddenly: it strikes.

Nobody knows what causes it, so it has been here for quite a while. It has happened so often that there is a sticky explaining what to do when it happens!

So, let's get it fixed. If it happens to you, do the following:

•Post when it happened. (When I clicked OK in the paint editor, when I saved, when I clicked the green flag, etc..)
•Post characteristics about your project. (It has a lot of sprites, it's very large, it has a lot of scripting, etc..)
•Were you doing anything odd? Post it. (I was connecting a large script, I was repeatedly clicking the File button, I was running the Internet at the same time, etc..)

You may not think that your posts will help, but if a lot of posts are sent, maybe there could be a connection!

A link to JSO's sticky: What to do when all text disappears...

A useful post by Jonathanpb:

Jonathanpb wrote:

JSO wrote:

The Scratch team has tracked it down a little bit.


It means it's in the UnicodePlugin.dll and not in the Squeak Scratch source code... 

johnm wrote:

If you'd like to try to debug the problem, the Unicode plugin source code can be downloaded from the Plugins section of this page:

  http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code

It's a very difficult bug. Good luck!

Get it? It's not from the Scratch source code... it's in the Unicode source code. If you want to try and find the bug, look in the Unicode source code.

A useful post from fanofcena:

fanofcena wrote:

Well i got an update a gr8 update i think the file that is bugging is the  unicode ops file well i m not sure but good programmers should see its coding it has a lot of complications it may be returning a garbage value instead

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Notes.................try and find a connection!

Chrischb wrote:

•I saved, and it happened.
•I clicked OK in the paint editor, and it happened.

•It has four sprites.
•It has a small amount of scripting.
•It has a lot of pixel art.

•Nothing I can think of.

what-the wrote:

I've seen it before but it only happens to me when there are two or more Scratch applications open, there side by side and they are overlaping a little & i'm constantly changing between them. This also causes scratch have a blank space where they overlaped if I move them and if I fullscreen one, the border goes to the edge of the screen but scratch doesn't resize leaving a big white space on my screen.

It happens with any sized projects.
It happens with and without other programs running.
It can happen when I try to do any sort of editing this includes pressing buttons. the save button is the one that causes it to happen the most for me

06dknibbs wrote:

One small solution I noticed, after It continued to happen. If I saved the file under a different name before closing it, the text stayed.

I seemed to get it at the start when I went into presentation mode.

I will also add, my Sphere project still seems to contain the glitch even if you download it. Maybe you could have a look at it and see if you can figure anything out?

SHADOWDARK2 wrote:

I have Scratch 1.4 and the same thing happens

* I start Scracth
* Make a Sprite With a Lot of Text on it
* I hit the undo button
* then the text dissapears

Jonathanpb wrote:

I get it when I save the Scratch project or save a costume/background with text after typing the text (not editing it).

Greatdane wrote:

I had vista and used Chrome, and it happened.

I don't remember when or where I heard this, but I think it's a reaction of Scratch to either:
-Too much memory usage
-Too much application at the same time
-Too much clicking, playing around
Something like that. I think it's related to the processor. Can maybe you guys give a processor? I have an AMD 64-bit. I was using the drawer tool. I'm using Vista, and Scratch 1.4.

A link to a breakthrough thread: Breakthrough

what-the wrote:

I found another way it happens if you go to upload a project and then cancel it

greenflash wrote:

I have a particularly weird case:

•I was typing in the paint editor, boom! Some of the text dissapeared. I hit ok, and closed the project, and it asked me to save, so I did. The rest of the text dissappeared.
•It had about five sprites, most of them had text. (I managed to upload it if you want to see it: Project in Question)
•I closed the project repeatedly and the text kept disappearing. I had to do this six or seven times untill I had all the text I needed typed in. It took about 2 minutes before it dissapeared after I opened the project.

I was also had internet explorer, itunes, powerpoint, and word open. I closed a few of the windows and it still dissapeared. Then I tried opening another scratch project and making the text disappear in that project and it didn't work. So I closed all the windows and quickly uploaded it before anything worse happened.

It was really annoying! I hope my information helps, but it completely baffles me! 

somelia wrote:

I just typed in  the word "text" and it disappeared! Than I tried typing in "cat" and it wouldn't show up, and than with a thrill of horror I realized that it was the bug!

fanofcena wrote:

now i have seen that the text problem occured only after the addition of truetype fonts on Scratch .the problem lies somewhere in the true type code (can i get a link to source code). For further i experimented I will need u all to also test this and report if u found it.
Start Scratch.
Start creating meaningless text filled sprites with some picture background .
now when u have done with nearly 50 start editing them unmeaningfully again.
after doing this for sometimes when u press backspace and space u might get the bug
If happened very often to me.by this procedure,
The other reason might be the old programming bug called garbage value(I dont think that seriosly it would be)



WELL THE THING THAT SUPPORTS IS IT DOSENT HAPPENS ON 1.2 and Older

Greatdane wrote:

ALERT ALERT!

It strikes again! I was using JUST Scratch, ONLY Scratch. It was using 93% or the system's RAM and memory. That just proves my theory. It was a big and complicated Scratch-OS, and was, well, big.

darthatr0n wrote:

OS: Windows XP
This doesn't just happen with Scratch. My computer does it randomly. It doesn't happen very often. One time I was playing a game called Motherload and then my computer slowed down and the text started going. The way I fix this every time is to restart my computer by pressing and holding the power button for 4 seconds. VERY ANNOYING!!!

jackrulez wrote:

It happened. I was filling in a survey project, and I was in the paint editor. I had typed all of the text I neeed in the costume and was drawing when BOOM! the text was gone. I tried to retype it, but it didn't work. I closed the paint editor then realized that there was no text at all. The only two programs tht were running were Scratch and the Internet. I closed Scratch, reopened it. Still no text. Help!!!!!!!!!!!! 

ThePCKid wrote:

I pressed enter too many times in the paint editor, and it happend

ThePCKid wrote:

I held down the enter button a second too long. The only text was "ThePCKid". It was the only application running. I'm running Windows Vista SP1 (I REALLY WANNA GET WINDOWS 7!!!!!)

fg123 wrote:

It usually happens in my Xenotype. When I edit a window with lot's of text for a long time, KA-BOOM. Text dissappears.
INFO:
OS: WINDOWS XP SP2
PROGRAMS RUNNING: SCRATCH, FIREFOX
PROJECT SIZE: APPROX. 40 sprites 80 scripts

Jonathanpb wrote:

I got the bug! In a way I haven't gotten it before.

I was dragging the black box used to position your text. I was slowly moving it around (I wanted it six pixels below something), and in the middle of it, the text suddenly vanished!

Has anyone else ever gotten the text bug while dragging the box?

fanofcena wrote:

well i got it again i was copying a same thing and BANG the thing dissappeard with all the text next after 2 - 3 seconds scratch crashed

rdococ wrote:

Happennd when i was working on my must-download-to-use Stream comments (within scratch 1.4 RC)
I have 200 and something GB of memory and it sill happens! 
I have like 200 and something less than what is my memory for scratch to use
I only had 3 programs on 

rdococ wrote:

OS: Windows XP Home Edition SP2
Memory: 200 and something GB
Memory for scratch to use: 100 and something GB
When I was working on a comment using 1.4RC, KA-KA-KA-KA-KA-KA-KA-KA-KA-BOOM! The text dissapeard! Even the bars, menu text,  and all pieces of Scratch Dissapeard!
This one is like the "All of Scratch dissapearing/vanishing" bug!

a1130 wrote:

I'm using Windows Vista Basic with Scratch 1.4, and the programs that were running were Google Chrome and Scratch. It was quite a weird case!!! This is what happened: On the paint editor, I clicked the Text button (the one with the T on it) and then when I was done typing, before I could press OK, all the text disappeared on the Paint Editor, but the other things weren't. I moved my mouse over to the parts that still had text, but one by one, they disappeared! And all of a sudden, the text on the blocks disappeared. The only thing that was still visible was the thing saying x and y (for the mouse x and mouse y) but it froze. This normally happens when I am working on my Scratch operating system ZenOS. (which isn't released yet)

(Oops, I forgot to remove everything you guys said)

Last edited by a1130 (2010-02-17 23:25:25)

a1130 wrote:

Chrischb wrote:

[Edited to save space]

A reminder for us all?

You know what? What did I just tell you?

Do I care about your little adventure? It stopped thanks goodness, I want to hear no more.

Did anyone, after periods of long time, encounter the glitch in 1.2/1.2.1?

I tonly happens to me when I have A LOT of text!

I was typing
I have a lot of scritping
I have a lot of sprites
I have a lot of graphics
I have some sounds
I took some screen shots on how to fix it.
http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=291527

Added. 

Added. 

Thanks for all of your detail. 

Well, I Don't Have The Imformation, But I Do Have Something That May Help. Here Is An Example Of What I Am Doing When It Happens To Me: I Have A Project. I Am Working On A, Oh, Lets Say A Game Over Sprite For My Slushy's Big Adventure Game. (Really. I AM Working On A Slushy's Big Adventure Game. And It Actually DID Happen To Me When I Was Doing This.) It Has The Words Game Over, And Then Under The Game Over, It Says: Press The Green Flag Or The 'Enter' Key  To Go Back To The Title Screen. If You Saved Your Progress, Then You Can Continue The Game From The Level You Saved The Game On. : ) And Then I Decided I Want To Underline The Words Game Over. So I Underline The Words Game Over With A White Line. I See That The Line Is Sticking Out Of The Words Game Over About An Inch, So I Decide To Cover That Area With A Black Square. I Finish Covering The Part Of The Line That's Sticking Out And I Let Go Of The Mouse So The Square Stays There. But Then All The Text Is Gone! I Hope This Helps And It Actually Never Happens To Me In Any Other Way. Please Put This Imformation Into Good Use And Please Let It Help You Fix The Glitch!