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#551 2009-11-18 17:49:09

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Re: Emerald

But you can't download it, you can only copy and paste...

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#552 2009-11-19 06:45:34

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Re: Emerald

ok, ill try to find the downloadable version.

Update: Im totaly lost on where to get it, i looked at this forum thread andit might lead you some where, just to say, i think all the instructions on how to set up the scratchr platform are here as i said the first time.

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#553 2009-11-19 10:22:09

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Re: Emerald

Oh, I've got to Contact the Scratch Team. xD Lets just stick with making are own website.

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#554 2009-11-19 20:33:12

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Re: Emerald

Okay, I've finally found  out how to get the saving working on C++(it took 15 mins)
and released a pre-pre-preliminary(not a typo) version of emerald, written in cpp.

http://www.mediafire.com/?5jemntnnfwn

I don't know if anyone cares, but I know that c++ will be able to give an executable too, instead of just a .py file, making it usable by many more people.

like i said, it is a very preliminary version. I wrote it while listening to "Sympathy for the Devil"


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#555 2009-11-19 21:23:50

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Re: Emerald

Testing now...


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#556 2009-11-19 21:26:03

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Re: Emerald

Ok. I get an  error message... "This application has failed to start because MSVCP100D.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem."


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#557 2009-11-20 06:43:59

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Re: Emerald

sad

OK, I've made a version which actually resembles EMERALD in some ways

http://www.mediafire.com/?wzjmdy2o42z

it didn't give me any errors.
But I've installed Visual CPP2010 and 2008 express and 2003
so there may be some dlls missing, but I wouldnt think so.


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#558 2009-11-20 09:46:07

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Re: Emerald

Well, if we use Python, then ANYONE on ANY platform can use it, and besides, you can change .py files into .exe or .app and I'll just download the .py or download the source of it.  big_smile

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#559 2009-11-20 10:21:22

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Re: Emerald

Magnie wrote:

Well, if we use Python, then ANYONE on ANY platform can use it, and besides, you can change .py files into .exe or .app and I'll just download the .py or download the source of it.  big_smile

Magnie, not everyone has python installed on there computer, so unless we have an installer install python while its installing Emerald, then only people with python have the ability to view Emerald.

Also, iv put up a thread asking how the scrtach project viewer works, and if its part of the ScratchR Platform. hopefuly we get some answers.

Edit: w've got over 8k views!

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#560 2009-11-20 14:14:01

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Re: Emerald

Yes, but most people have Python installed.

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#561 2009-11-20 14:31:50

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Re: Emerald

Well, generally, I could compile it for more than one platform, like linux or mac.

But they might not have the necessary libs.

*WAIT A SECOND*
C++ is very multi platform.

just about as multi platform as python.
or more.

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#562 2009-11-20 14:39:47

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Re: Emerald

Magnie wrote:

Yes, but most people have Python installed.

Me too


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#563 2009-11-20 15:42:04

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Re: Emerald

cds56 wrote:

sad

OK, I've made a version which actually resembles EMERALD in some ways

http://www.mediafire.com/?wzjmdy2o42z

it didn't give me any errors.
But I've installed Visual CPP2010 and 2008 express and 2003
so there may be some dlls missing, but I wouldnt think so.

Same error.

Gonna go get Visual C++ 2010 now.


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#564 2009-11-20 15:45:06

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Re: Emerald

Ok, C++ 2010 isn't out yet?

I just decided to randomly get 2005 C++ (redistributable)


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#565 2009-11-20 15:46:55

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Re: Emerald

OK. Still doesn't work.

Could anyone just tell me what MSVCP100D.dll is, specifically, not just a C++ DLL, but what it exactly does...?


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#566 2009-11-20 16:06:57

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Re: Emerald

I'm using the 2010 beta.
and unfortunately, the fifth answer on my google search is you saying MSVCP100D.dll in this thread.

wait. Okay, MSVCP stands for microsoft visual c plus plus. it is a standard library dll in Visual studio 2010. at microsoft's website, they said that the best way was to include the file so,
http://www.mediafire.com/?gk3eznyzeym the updated .zip


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#567 2009-11-20 16:17:29

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Re: Emerald

OR use the following .exe. which is a static build(requiring no dlls)

http://www.mediafire.com/?oyuygklivno


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#568 2009-11-20 16:28:53

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Re: Emerald

ok, maybe you should also get a slightly older version of C++, so that its easier for people to view it without the Dll?

Magnie: Nobody i know has python on there compter, its not something that someone would go out and do one evening without reason.


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#569 2009-11-20 17:10:52

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Re: Emerald

I guess, but it's easier to get than VB.

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#570 2009-11-20 18:18:57

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Re: Emerald

Alright:
1. w/ included DLL - says its not a valid Windows Image (the DLL)
2. w/ static (DLLs built in/whatever) - the DLL error from previous posts


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#571 2009-11-20 19:04:59

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Re: Emerald

eugh. I'll figure it out. but usually statically compiling it works.

I guess...I'll compile it with VS 2003. I only have 2008 express.

*UPDAT*
2003 doesnt have the necessary libraries.
but, I figured out that the version that was static, umm, it's to say that I forgot to hit "apply" on the properties screen.

http://www.mediafire.com/?vmky0gyhoz4
try this. It should work. the, uh DLLs were built in, and the program size increased by 300 percent almost. it increased by about the size of MSVCP100D.dll


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#572 2009-11-20 19:06:02

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Re: Emerald

oh, and usually you don't need to get VB to run VCPP programs, but this DLL is really new, and is probably included in win7 too I would assume.


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#573 2009-11-20 20:02:27

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Re: Emerald

I have Win7RC (not the retail/RTM) and WinXP, if you need me to test Win7.


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#574 2009-11-20 20:05:28

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Re: Emerald

OK, it works. O.M.G this is like the primitive Emerald 0.1.

It only has print, but I guess that's okay, as print and ask were pretty much the same in 0.1.


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#575 2009-11-20 20:11:48

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Re: Emerald

YES
I programmed ask into that version, although it isnt listed in the commands, and open, but both are nonfunctional due to minor errors. actually, open is useless. but ask is just FRUSTRATING. just type ask, then type what you want to ask, then type run, and instead of asking the question, it jumps to the original function, where it asks you what you want to ask the user.  Save works, run works, for some reason, multi word printing is a hit or miss, probably because of the limitations of cin >>

I'm going to add a "new" function, which just sorta clears the variables.
but it finally worked.


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