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#26 2009-08-15 13:05:14

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

floatingmagictree wrote:

SugarfreeJello wrote:

I recolored Chamelion(i think thats his name) into a grass-type. I also remade his tail flame into a leaf. http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/532/grasschamelion.gif

The shading makes him look a little to shiny, how about using shades that are closer to each other instead of a really dark side and a really light side?

You should use only three to five shades in a sprite.

Also, isn't that sprite a little outdated? (I think its from G/S/C) You should use a more recent charmeleon sprite like from D/P/Pt.

@djm111 (yes it's an offtopic question): I'm done with my Platinum team and I'm ready to face you but I need to raise everyone to lv. 100 first.  Are there any quick ways?

You could use cheats for unlimited rare candies, which is the quickest way. Otherwise you're going to have to train them up normally. The best ways to do so are the Pokemon League and the trainers in the house in the Survival Zone.

@SugarfreeJello: As FMT said, the shading is a little bit too bright. However, you've done the shading well (And it's not your fault there are too many shades if it's a recolour). I really like the leaf, although I think giving the leaf a dark green outline would make it even better  smile
Oh, and FMT, your sprite is really good, the only improvement I can think of is that where the tail connects to the body, the way it goes really thin looks a bit strange.

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#27 2009-08-15 16:08:31

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

hmm ill try one but i need an idea


A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?

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#28 2009-08-15 16:10:38

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

beanbug wrote:

hmm ill try one but i need an idea

Just take any old sprite and recolour it.


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#29 2009-08-15 16:18:07

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

ill do it in the morning gonna go an watch tv


A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from?

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#30 2009-08-15 23:23:46

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

djm111 wrote:

Oh, and FMT, your sprite is really good, the only improvement I can think of is that where the tail connects to the body, the way it goes really thin looks a bit strange.

Thanks.

I'm going to do a splice next.

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#31 2009-08-17 17:48:42

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

I'll finish accepting the recolour entries tomorrow, and then judge them all in one big batch.
After that, I'll probably go onto splices or simple edits or something.


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#32 2009-08-17 18:26:06

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Sounds good  smile


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#33 2009-08-18 13:00:04

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

OK.
Judging time now, lol.
The top 3 sprites will gain points, the best gaining 3, then 2, then 1. I'll give you a rough grade, and what needs improving.

Mozaz: http://i27.tinypic.com/2ni8e9l.gif A
First, of this is a very good recolour, and using the colour maps was a very clever way to do it. It looks exactly like what it was wanted to look like, and it doesnt go overboard using tons of different shades.
However, because of the very few gold shades used, the whole of the sprite seems to blend, which while it looks very good, it's difficult to tell the different parts of the sprite from one another (e.g. gloves, overalls etc.)

FiremariomkiZX: http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1855/mmrecolor1.gif B
Ok, this is quite a good recolour. It took a while to figure out it was supposed to be Megaman though. The recolouring all around is mostly done well, and the colours fit the style it's sprited in. However, the colours in the face make the facial features difficult to pick out, and the shading overall could be a little better. However, I don't know how the shading on the original sprite was done, so if you post a link to it then I mayv change the grade.

SugarfreeJello: http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/532/grasschamelion.gif B+
I'm sorry, it wouldn't be fair to count both of your entries when everyone else only did one. But, anyway, the judging: The idea is a good one, and it's been done well, although it might have looked better with a darker shade of green. There are some odd green pixels in the outline which dont look right, but that was probably the original spriters attempt at Anti-Aliasing. The leaf tail is done very well, and the only problem I see is that it could use a more distinct outline.

Floatingmagictree: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/909/fjaso.png A
This recolour is pretty much awesome. The idea was great and you've done it on a pokemon which suited it perfectly. The colouring is great overall. The only problem is where the tail connects and it goes thin, but seens as this is an edit, it's still more than I asked to be done and it still looks great.

Places:
1st: Floatingmagictree: 3 points
2nd: Mozaz: 2 points (FMT won because he didnt use colour maps, but both sprites get a place in the hall of fame.
3rd: SugarfreeJello: 1 point

Next theme is splicing, I'll have a thing up about it later.


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#34 2009-08-18 13:27:41

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

Oh yay I won  smile

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#35 2009-08-18 14:46:12

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

Cool, thanks  big_smile


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#36 2009-08-19 05:07:00

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

Do I get some kind of prize?

Also I'm going to do a splice today. Maybe I should try and incorporate my favorite pokemon, Ludicolo.

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#37 2009-08-20 07:50:37

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

Finished it!

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It's a fusion of Ludicolo and Shiftry, Shiftry being the base.

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#38 2009-08-20 08:13:01

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Week 2 lesson please!  tongue


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#39 2009-08-20 15:27:20

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

yes pweez!


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#40 2009-08-20 16:04:56

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

FMT, could you write up a passage on splicing? I'm extremely busy and don't have time today, and I can see from Shiftricolo you know how to do it extremely well.


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#41 2009-08-21 07:49:55

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

djm111 wrote:

FMT, could you write up a passage on splicing? I'm extremely busy and don't have time today, and I can see from Shiftricolo you know how to do it extremely well.

Sure! I'll work on it now since I'm free.

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#42 2009-08-22 14:14:57

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

WEEK 2: FUSIONS/SPLICING

The second week of the spriting workshop: Fusions/Splicing*.  Although this may seem like a very daunting task at first, it is extremely easy to get the hang of and completely worth it after you finish it. 
The skills you learned from the first week, recoloring, will also be used for splicing.
The basics are simple too.  Two or more sprites (I recommend two) that go together, a palette and an image editing program are some.  You also need to figure out which sprite should be the base and which sprite should be the component, and then put component parts on the base sprite.
Here’s what’s not to do: Simply copy+pasting a head from one sprite to another isn’t splicing. You need to take specific parts that define the component sprite and fit those onto the base, as well as recoloring and maybe even fitting them in by making them by scratch.
The base sprite must be recolored to that of the component sprite’s palette. You might also need to remake some pattern or design, like how I made a Shiftry and Ludicolo fusion and I had to copy Ludicolo’s stripes.

STEP 1: Get your sprites.
I recommend that you start learning how to splice pokemon sprites, because there are many of them to choose from and they have many unique and distinguishable parts, such as the pearl on Spoink’s head or the ring on Ursaring’s belly.  There are some sprites that CAN’T go together though.  For example, you can’t mix an Arbok with something like a Pelipper, can you? Well, you might be able to but it’ll take a lot of experience.  For this example I’ll be using two pokemon, Teddiursa and Pichu because, well, they go well with each other!

STEP 2: Get the sprite’s palette.
Before you start, you have to get all the colors of the sprite.  Put both of the sprites on your image editing program (I use paint), and take EVERY color that is on your component sprite.
Draw all of those colors in boxes, and then you can start!

STEP 3: ITS TEH FUZIN’ TIEM!
Time to start!  Once you finish your palette, click on the select tool.  Under the tool box there will be another box that has another two smaller boxes (O_o).  The first one is probably selected.  Click on the second one.
By doing this, you have enabled your selections to be transparent, in other words everything that is white will disappear. After this, go to the color box and double click on white.  Click on “more custom colors” and an extension to the window will appear. Move the bar ever so slightly so it still look like white but it isn’t.
Take the palette of your component sprite and recolor the base sprite with it.  Some sprites may have more or less shades, kind of like how Scizor has twice as much shades as Latios.

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Once you are done recoloring the base sprite, it’s time to take things from the component to the base. Once again, you need to put things that define the component sprite, in this case pichu's ears and cheeks.

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Don't be afraid to take off chunks from your component sprite.

After you've finished that, add your finishing touches and you're done!
Here's the result, Pichursa:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9250/processcomplete.png
Impressive, right? You can do the same! Start now!

*Fusions and splicing mean the same thing
Questions? Comments?  Feedback? Just post 4 help.

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#43 2009-08-22 14:18:43

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

Thanks FMT, although the pictures don't work.
btw, my routers fixed so I can do the pokebattle anytime.


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#44 2009-08-22 14:22:25

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

djm111 wrote:

Thanks FMT, although the pictures don't work.
btw, my routers fixed so I can do the pokebattle anytime.

Still training them all to level hundred and still EV training my tank.

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#45 2009-08-22 14:24:46

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

OK. The pictures are working now. I'm now adding the tutorial to the front page.
I'll be making a splice too, I'll have it up later.

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#46 2009-08-22 14:30:20

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

djm111 wrote:

OK. The pictures are working now. I'm now adding the tutorial to the front page.
I'll be making a splice too, I'll have it up later.

Can you put it up again because the pics didn't come out right before but I fixed it.

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#47 2009-08-22 14:45:03

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Yeah I'm kinda glad that I finished the tutorial.

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#48 2009-08-22 15:09:33

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

Done. Still havent got round to my splice yet though, im on it.


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#49 2009-08-22 18:05:48

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

Nice tutorial FMT, but I would have blended the colours of the ears and the body together, because at the moment it doesn't look right.

I'll try splicing tomorrow  smile  Thanks for the tutorial.


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#50 2009-08-22 21:25:14

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Re: Spriting Workshop!

I'll get on mine soon.


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