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#101 2007-11-18 01:25:26

MyRedNeptune
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

I downloaded the beta version and I'm lucky it runs ok. I read all this and I think I should backup my projects. Right now. No bugs yet! I'll tell you if I find some.


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#102 2007-11-18 10:33:02

Canthiar
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

I've noticed that Scratch slows down significantly if you have a decent sized script and and have two or more comment fields expanded.  Is there any plan to speed this up or should they just always be collapsed while editing?

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#103 2007-11-18 12:47:35

pieclip
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

There really should be something that looks like this,
http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t96/oguy/th_Edit.jpg

Last edited by pieclip (2007-11-18 12:49:01)

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#104 2007-11-18 14:58:06

NobodyKnowsNorune
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

can someone tell me what they think about this http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/NobodyKnowsNorune/56542
___________________________________________________________________________________
smile
     neutral  and  neutral  produces neutral
     sad  and  sad  produces sad
     big_smile  and  big_smile  produces big_smile
     yikes  and  yikes  produces yikes
     wink  produces wink
     hmm  produces hmm
     tongue  produces tongue
     lol  produces lol
     mad  produces mad
     roll  produces roll
     cool  produces cool


My name is Riley                                        I ride a unicycle

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#105 2007-11-18 15:46:52

relyt12101
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

ANOTHER BUG?

When I uploaded 'Math Challenge' (http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/relyt12101/56591), I uploaded it with three tags: Game (which is a tick box), math, and challenge (both entered in the text boxes), but none appear online.


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#106 2007-11-18 19:43:41

kevin_karplus
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

The lack of tag uploading is a known bug in the beta release.  It will be fixed in the official release (or so I've been told).

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#107 2007-11-19 02:37:07

Jens
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

saucagestand wrote:

wierd glitch:
http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boxbp0.png
i clicked paint new sprite and this came up

I also ran into this error when I tested the Scratch 1.2. beta version.

It always occured after I looked at a Scratch project using midi online and left the browser open (with or without a Scratch project). Turned out I used an old java version (1.4.2). After I upgraded to something newer, I now usually don't get this error (but still sometimes). Problem is, I'm using an acient windows version (ME) which doesn't install the latest java version. Still: Try upgrading your java, I'm confident it will help!


Jens Mönig

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#108 2007-11-19 09:34:26

johnm
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

Hi, Rely12101.

As Kevin wrote, the 1.2 beta had a bug: no tags were being sent to the server. That bug will be fixed in the final 1.2 release. Thanks for reporting it!

  -- John

P.S. Adding a new feature often introduces bugs. In this case, adding the tag checkboxes introduced a bug that broke the previously working tag fields. But I'm sure you've noticed that when working on your own Scratch projects. That's why testing is so important.

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#109 2007-11-19 09:41:20

johnm
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

Hi, saucagestand and Jens.

This MIDI bug is actually a bug in the Windows MIDI implementation; it is allowing Java to "steal" the MIDI synthesizer from Scratch. Jens says that Java versions after 1.4.2 do not have this issue. I think that is because Java started using their own internal MIDI synthesizer rather than the one built into Windows.

saucagestand, what version of Windows do you have? If you also have ME then perhaps this bug is only on Windows ME. It seems to be quite rare.

In any case, I've changed the code so that you won't get a pink box anymore. But you won't get any sound, either. So it's probably a good idea to upgrade your Java. It's free; just go to http://www.java.com/getjava/.

  -- John

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#110 2007-11-19 11:07:58

calvin-w
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

Good

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#111 2007-11-19 15:15:25

Gigabyte123
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

Canthiar wrote:

I've noticed that Scratch slows down significantly if you have a decent sized script and and have two or more comment fields expanded.  Is there any plan to speed this up or should they just always be collapsed while editing?

I have noticed that each command you put in your script takes 0.01 seconds to carry out. I have also noticed that your raytracer script has about fifty commands in it! So if there is a way you can make a raytracer that carries out several commands at a time?


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#112 2007-11-19 16:15:10

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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

Gigabyte123 wrote:

Canthiar wrote:

I've noticed that Scratch slows down significantly if you have a decent sized script and and have two or more comment fields expanded.  Is there any plan to speed this up or should they just always be collapsed while editing?

I have noticed that each command you put in your script takes 0.01 seconds to carry out. I have also noticed that your raytracer script has about fifty commands in it! So if there is a way you can make a raytracer that carries out several commands at a time?

I wasn't talking about a running program, just the editor.

As far as the slowness, part of it is because of the broadcasts in my program.

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#113 2007-11-19 21:40:55

Italiano
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

I have downloaded it and tried out some stuff for bugs, but was it when i downloaded it that it cannot read my projects or let me select them? I downloaded it to find bugs, and every time i find bugs, this little thing pops - up and i do not understand it. I am pretty good at scratch, but i cannot interpret the unfamiliar coding of the pop - up that comes up when i find a bug. I want to help with scratch 1.2, but i may have to un-download scratch beta because it may be mis-read by my computer resulting in glitches in my own computer. Can anyone help me? Is it just the scratch website that is having problems? I can't even leave comments in the project comment areas. [blocks]<when green flag clicked>[/blocks][blocks]<forever>[/blocks]SCRATCH 4ever![blocks]<end>[/blocks]

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#114 2007-11-20 23:22:58

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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

johnm wrote:

Hi, saucagestand and Jens.

This MIDI bug is actually a bug in the Windows MIDI implementation; it is allowing Java to "steal" the MIDI synthesizer from Scratch. Jens says that Java versions after 1.4.2 do not have this issue. I think that is because Java started using their own internal MIDI synthesizer rather than the one built into Windows.

saucagestand, what version of Windows do you have? If you also have ME then perhaps this bug is only on Windows ME. It seems to be quite rare.

In any case, I've changed the code so that you won't get a pink box anymore. But you won't get any sound, either. So it's probably a good idea to upgrade your Java. It's free; just go to http://www.java.com/getjava/.

  -- John

i have a windows vista home premium; i just got it a while ago.
thx

Last edited by sausagestand (2007-11-20 23:23:56)

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#115 2007-11-21 08:38:48

tneuage
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

It is past mid-November. When would Version 1.2 be released? I would like to start it for trimester two which begins 26th November.
Is this suitable for year six (grade six)? Or too youngish?
Dr. Terrell Neuage Ph.D
The Dwight School
Manhattan

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#116 2007-11-21 09:49:17

Jens
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

I've read somewhere the release date for Scratch version 1.2 is Dec. 1st.

You can always start with the current stable version, though, and upgrade later (the new version doesn't have any new *essential* features, besides support for national translations, which you probably don't need anyway).

In my opinion, sixth graders will be able to create their own projects rather quickly with Scratch, but then, I'm personally lacking teaching experience with kids...


Jens Mönig

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#117 2007-11-21 15:47:02

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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

I have been using Scratch with 9-11-year-olds, which is a good starting age, but I think that scratch is most suited for  11-14-year-olds, though one can push either end by several years.

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#118 2007-11-22 11:04:34

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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

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<if>  <not>I get tired of it >>
        Scratch Rules!
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#119 2007-11-22 18:55:40

Canthiar
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

I have a project where the clamping seems to be broken.  When the sprite crosses over from negative to positive the sprite will jump to the furthest negative position along the axis.

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#120 2007-11-23 17:20:09

kevin_karplus
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

Canthiar, I noticed a similar problem with pen motion a week or two ago---they may have fixed it by now.

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#121 2007-11-23 17:22:35

Canthiar
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

Thanks Kevin.

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#122 2007-11-23 18:30:21

MrBananas
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

If I install the newer version, will my projects from the old version be there? Or will I have to download them?

Just wondering.   smile

-MrBananas


"Someday I'll find my Edward Cullen, and you'll be jealous!"

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#123 2007-11-23 18:59:39

kevin_karplus
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

Your projects will still be on your disk, but not in the same folders as the Scratch v1.2 projects.  You can move or copy them into the new folders.

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#124 2007-11-23 19:46:15

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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

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#125 2007-11-24 13:47:16

Greatdane
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Re: Version 1.2 to be released around mid November. Testing going on now.

I noticed a bug in the presentation mode. I made a sprite that would jump from one place to another, and then clear. In presentation mode, it showed nothing. I guess that maybe the sprite is too fast for scratch in presentation mode, so it shows nothing. This would be a real problem for pen users.


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