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#1 2009-07-19 18:51:09

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After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

I know a lot of people have already done this, but the only one's I have found were for Mac's. I have a PC, so I just need to know, what's a good, easy programming language after scratch. I'll put them in a list here for people to see:

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List:

Elements
Starlogo
Javascript
VBscript
Windows Batch
squeak

(Thanks Billyedward!)

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#2 2009-07-19 19:29:16

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

Oneandonly wrote:

I know a lot of people have already done this, but the only one's I have found were for Mac's. I have a PC, so I just need to know.

What are you tryin to ask?


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#3 2009-07-19 19:30:55

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

littletonkslover wrote:

Oneandonly wrote:

I know a lot of people have already done this, but the only one's I have found were for Mac's. I have a PC, so I just need to know.

What are you tryin to ask?

Yeah... I didn't make it very clear. I was asking for a programming language after scratch.

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#4 2009-07-20 05:31:04

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

Try Flash (yea I know it's expensive, but if you're not in USA, you can get it from isohunt).


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#5 2009-07-20 19:35:23

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

filo5 wrote:

Try Flash (yea I know it's expensive, but if you're not in USA, you can get it from isohunt).

I am in the USA.

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#6 2009-07-20 20:18:42

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

filo5 wrote:

Try Flash (yea I know it's expensive, but if you're not in USA, you can get it from isohunt).

illegal. :p


try python, java, or something. http? im learning Obj-C. FREAKING HARD, but i know other languages so I feel i'm ready for it.


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#7 2009-07-20 20:57:30

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

Take a look at Alice, also from MIT, (www.alice.org) somewhat similar approach as Scratch, 3-D graphics with complex animated objects.

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#8 2009-07-20 21:39:17

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itsme213 wrote:

Take a look at Alice, also from MIT, (www.alice.org) somewhat similar approach as Scratch, 3-D graphics with complex animated objects.

I have gotten into alice. I was actually at a camp at a college and they introduced us to it. My computer is too slow to run it smoothly.

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#9 2009-07-20 22:49:09

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

fruit wrote:

im learning Obj-C. FREAKING HARD, but i know other languages so I feel i'm ready for it.

Objective-C is not hard at all.

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#10 2009-07-20 23:14:30

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

There's this game language, Kodu, developed by MS, but its for the Xbox.  sad  I haven't used it, but I've heard good things about it.


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#11 2009-07-21 02:48:01

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

Kodu is like scratch but 3d and much simpler. I'd give python and java a try. Also maybe XNA, it's a language buit by microsoftt that let's you make all kinds of games for Xbox and windows. I find it funny that I posted this and I use linux XD


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#12 2009-07-21 17:14:04

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

Ok!

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#13 2009-07-21 18:09:43

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

Try Game Maker. I use it, and I LOVE it. It has Drag & Drop options for beginners, but also a built-in programming language for advanced users (which is what I use). Take the time to learn the language and you will never go back to Scratch. It's awesome. (The reason I'm using Scratch at the moment and not GM is because I recently switched to a Mac, and GM is not yet available for Mac, although a Mac version is in development.)

You can get it from YoYoGames.com. There's a free version available that already has a lot of functions, but once you get into it I suggest buying the Pro version...it's only $20, and it's well worth it.

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#14 2009-07-21 18:20:24

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

I tried that actually. Didn't turn out too well. I did make a game from it though...

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#15 2009-07-21 18:31:03

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

technoman wrote:

fruit wrote:

im learning Obj-C. FREAKING HARD, but i know other languages so I feel i'm ready for it.

Objective-C is not hard at all.

O RLY?


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#16 2009-07-21 18:46:45

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

fruit wrote:

technoman wrote:

fruit wrote:

im learning Obj-C. FREAKING HARD, but i know other languages so I feel i'm ready for it.

Objective-C is not hard at all.

O RLY?

At Fruit: Yeah I started learning it about a month and a half ago and I am already making an Iphone and itouch app. It isn't that hard it just takes some time to understand. How are you  learning Objective-C?? a book??? a website???? the developer website???? what???? I suggest a book. That helped me a ton. And if you need any help with anything I will help you.

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#17 2009-07-21 18:51:02

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

Oneandonly wrote:

I tried that actually. Didn't turn out too well. I did make a game from it though...

Yeah, there's a bit of a learning curve, but it's well worth it, IMO.

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#18 2009-07-21 23:27:53

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

Try starlogo. Similar to alice, but more scratch-like.
Also, jumping from scratch to programming is not a good idea; they are too different. I recommend scripting first. Javascript and VBscript are good ones. Or, to start really easy, try windows batch.
Also, in terms of programming, I recommend Squeak.
It is much friendlier and easier than compiler languages like C or Java.
To get a head start at this, Download Jens' Elements. It basically parses the squeak syntax, into scratch-like Blocks!!!


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#19 2009-07-22 09:10:15

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

technoman wrote:

fruit wrote:

technoman wrote:


Objective-C is not hard at all.

O RLY?

At Fruit: Yeah I started learning it about a month and a half ago and I am already making an Iphone and iPod touch app. It isn't that hard it just takes some time to understand. How are you  learning Objective-C?? a book??? a website???? the developer website???? what???? I suggest a book. That helped me a ton. And if you need any help with anything I will help you.

I'm actually saving up for a book on iPhone coding.


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#20 2009-07-22 09:24:24

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

fruit wrote:

technoman wrote:

fruit wrote:


O RLY?

At Fruit: Yeah I started learning it about a month and a half ago and I am already making an Iphone and iPod touch app. It isn't that hard it just takes some time to understand. How are you  learning Objective-C?? a book??? a website???? the developer website???? what???? I suggest a book. That helped me a ton. And if you need any help with anything I will help you.

I'm actually saving up for a book on iPhone coding.

Then what are you doing in the meantime????? Which book?????

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#21 2009-07-22 11:36:23

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

billyedward wrote:

Try starlogo. Similar to alice, but more scratch-like.
Also, jumping from scratch to programming is not a good idea; they are too different. I recommend scripting first. Javascript and VBscript are good ones. Or, to start really easy, try windows batch.
Also, in terms of programming, I recommend Squeak.
It is much friendlier and easier than compiler languages like C or Java.
To get a head start at this, Download Jens' Elements. It basically parses the squeak syntax, into scratch-like Blocks!!!

Where?

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#22 2009-07-22 19:45:14

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

I would definitely recommend C# and Visual Studio 2008 Express Edition as an IDE, but it's a Windows language (it depends of the .NET framework), and it looks like you're programming on a Mac (because of Objective-C and all that).


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#23 2009-07-22 20:14:04

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

Oneandonly wrote:

billyedward wrote:

Try starlogo. Similar to alice, but more scratch-like.
Also, jumping from scratch to programming is not a good idea; they are too different. I recommend scripting first. Javascript and VBscript are good ones. Or, to start really easy, try windows batch.
Also, in terms of programming, I recommend Squeak.
It is much friendlier and easier than compiler languages like C or Java.
To get a head start at this, Download Jens' Elements. It basically parses the squeak syntax, into scratch-like Blocks!!!

Where?

Elements
Starlogo
Javascript
VBscript
Windows Batch
squeak
These are where you download/learn about the mentioned languages/programs/etc.


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#24 2009-07-27 12:16:10

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

Thanks!

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#25 2009-08-03 22:14:30

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Re: After Scratch? (for WINDOWS)

Any onthers?

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