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#51 2009-09-16 12:46:35

HungryDragon
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

billyedward wrote:

HungryDragon wrote:

Where or how can I get the scratch 1.4 skin  already hacked 1.4 and would like to alter the way scratch looks. f I can't get the skin is the 1.3.1 skin compatable?

Oh, By the way please someone respond, I already posted this once and go no answer    } sad

What I'd most recommend is to wait until the scratch team releases the 1.4 source code. However, it may be possible... The long, painstaking way is to print screen it and edit the images to include only the ones you want... or it may be possible to write a code to do that for you.
P.s. the 1.3.1 images will not work. (there will be a whole whack of 'key not found' errors if you try it).

Thanks for your help, well I sent an email message thing to the scratch team to see if they can help me because I can be so impatient.  smile

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#52 2009-09-20 19:39:11

billyedward
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

HungryDragon wrote:

billyedward wrote:

HungryDragon wrote:

Where or how can I get the scratch 1.4 skin  already hacked 1.4 and would like to alter the way scratch looks. f I can't get the skin is the 1.3.1 skin compatable?

Oh, By the way please someone respond, I already posted this once and go no answer    } sad

What I'd most recommend is to wait until the scratch team releases the 1.4 source code. However, it may be possible... The long, painstaking way is to print screen it and edit the images to include only the ones you want... or it may be possible to write a code to do that for you.
P.s. the 1.3.1 images will not work. (there will be a whole whack of 'key not found' errors if you try it).

Thanks for your help, well I sent an email message thing to the scratch team to see if they can help me because I can be so impatient.  smile

That would do it.
If they do, you can forward it to me so I can host it on the streak site. (at least until it goes up on scratch.mit.edu)


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#53 2009-09-21 17:00:20

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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

any way to have a file save to .nds not .sb? So then it might work on nds ... i think

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#54 2009-09-23 20:11:16

nitromegamer
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

How do I add my own blocks into the latest version of scratch?

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#55 2009-09-23 20:53:03

gershmer
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

dav09 wrote:

any way to have a file save to .nds not .sb? So then it might work on nds ... i think

Yes. and no. billyedward's Streak mod of Scratch saves the projects as .sc files (which are just sb files with a differen't)
But, changing a file extension doesn't change the file type.


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#56 2009-09-25 16:33:30

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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

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#57 2009-09-26 15:16:04

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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

Where?


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#58 2009-09-26 15:35:31

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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

henley wrote:

Where?

http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Source_Code


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#59 2009-11-04 03:06:44

touch_classroom
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

Thanks for the information.

Where can I get WeDoPlugIn.c? ^_^

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#60 2009-11-09 12:36:22

computernut401
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

I think I found a way to get the console thing in Scratch 1.4:
Find a project that has the really old "inline comments" that are actual blocks, and drag one of these comments into the toolbox area to delete it.

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#61 2009-11-09 22:08:26

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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

henley wrote:

My question: Do you die from getting scared half the death twice?

I would say no.
Here's my reasoning:
The first time, you are scared half to death.
If you are scared half to death again, it is relative to half of your current 'amount of life' before the scaring commenced. Hence, after two of said scarings, you are rendered at 3/4 to death. Theoretically, you can be scared half to death as many times as you like, and you only approach death in a logarithmic curve, but never reach it.

Sorry. I just couldn't resist a good logic conundrum.
P.s. If anyone wants to argue/agree/continue the debate, please start another thread.


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#62 2009-11-09 22:15:35

Magnie
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

Do you think you can make another project with arrows? ( Like Jens Flip project ) as sometimes I mess up on something and have to rewatch the entire project...

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#63 2009-11-10 04:06:28

billyedward
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

Magnie wrote:

Do you think you can make another project with arrows? ( Like Jens Flip project ) as sometimes I mess up on something and have to rewatch the entire project...

Good idea... I will in future.


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#64 2009-11-10 10:48:50

Magnie
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

Thanks! Mind telling me when it's made?  big_smile

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#65 2010-04-02 04:17:15

billyedward
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

dav09 wrote:

any way to have a file save to .nds not .sb? So then it might work on nds ... i think

Yes, it is very possible.
There are certain sections of code that must be changed.
In order to find them, search the source code for 'sb' and find the ones that stand alone, and change them to nds.


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#66 2010-04-02 10:38:59

somelia
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

billyedward wrote:

dav09 wrote:

any way to have a file save to .nds not .sb? So then it might work on nds ... i think

Yes, it is very possible.
There are certain sections of code that must be changed.
In order to find them, search the source code for 'sb' and find the ones that stand alone, and change them to nds.

Also, could I make my own extension and have them also open, and .sb doesn't?

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#67 2010-04-02 18:12:22

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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

I M-I-G-H-T be able to make a new Scratch thing... I would name it Bakery


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#68 2010-04-02 19:08:39

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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

pinochio wrote:

i know how to hackin the source code of 1.3 but what about 1.4?

Shift-click the loop in the R of the Scratch Logo, and click Turn Fill Screen Off. That should do it.

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#69 2010-04-02 20:37:58

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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

I downloaded the source code and spent a half an hour getting the file browser to work. For some reason a primitive was being used that wasn't supposed to be used. Something ending with 'OrNil:' that shouldn't have had the 'OrNil:' part.

BTW I understand most stuff about Squeak, but can someone explain primitives to me... hmm

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#70 2010-04-02 21:19:51

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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

OK, another question for the experts: I (seemingly) have ScratchPlugin, but 'pluginAvailable' always returns false and presentation mode refuses to cooperate. What should I do?


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#71 2010-04-03 08:52:05

gershmer
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

nXIII wrote:

OK, another question for the experts: I (seemingly) have ScratchPlugin, but 'pluginAvailable' always returns false and presentation mode refuses to cooperate. What should I do?

Do you ScratchPlugin.dll for 1.4?


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#72 2010-04-03 11:45:44

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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

gershmer wrote:

nXIII wrote:

OK, another question for the experts: I (seemingly) have ScratchPlugin, but 'pluginAvailable' always returns false and presentation mode refuses to cooperate. What should I do?

Do you ScratchPlugin.dll for 1.4?

What?


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#73 2010-04-03 13:31:14

randalpik
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

Hacking into the 1.4 source code is easy. Just shift-click on the "R" in Scratch at the top left of the screen, and click "turn fill screen off." Then, in the new white space at the bottom go to open-> browser. When you're done, shift-click on the "R" again and click "turn fill screen on."

But does anyone know how to actually find the block section  in the source for 1.4 so you can add blocks?


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#74 2010-04-03 13:55:15

somelia
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

randalpik wrote:

Hacking into the 1.4 source code is easy. Just shift-click on the "R" in Scratch at the top left of the screen, and click "turn fill screen off." Then, in the new white space at the bottom go to open-> browser. When you're done, shift-click on the "R" again and click "turn fill screen on."

But does anyone know how to actually find the block section  in the source for 1.4 so you can add blocks?

Yeah, I'm too lazy to tell you. GO ask billyedward.  tongue

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#75 2010-04-03 14:31:33

nXIII
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Re: Altering the source code: Questions Welcome!

randalpik wrote:

Hacking into the 1.4 source code is easy. Just shift-click on the "R" in Scratch at the top left of the screen, and click "turn fill screen off." Then, in the new white space at the bottom go to open-> browser. When you're done, shift-click on the "R" again and click "turn fill screen on."

But does anyone know how to actually find the block section  in the source for 1.4 so you can add blocks?

select Scratch-objects -> ScriptableScratchMorph then click 'class' and click block specs -> blockSpecs

EDIT: And add stuff.

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