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#1 2009-06-23 22:24:08
My band won't stay together!
Okay, so I'm making a song with multiple parts. (You know, melody, harmony, percussion, ect.) I only made 2 parts so far. I made a sprite for each part so they could have different instruments. I set each sprite to 90 bpm and counted out the parts carefully. When I run it, both parts start off together but then one or the other or both get off time and by the end, they are not together at all! I'm not sure whether this is my computer's fault or Scratch's, but it's really a bummer. I have tried adding rests in here or there so the parts can sync up, but it varies, so the fix only works once or twice. Has anyone else experienced this? Any suggestions?
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#2 2009-06-23 23:28:52
Re: My band won't stay together!
That's scratch's lag problem.
The only way to get around it is (in 1.4) go to Edit > Set single stepping > Turbo speed. It should sync them up, but you have to do that every time you open the project.
I'm taking a break from Scratch until 2.0 comes out. Any messages sent between then and now probably won't be read - sorry.
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#3 2009-06-24 02:23:38
- cheddargirl
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Re: My band won't stay together!
I've experienced this before on one of my projects, and what hmnwilson says is correct.
If the theme of the project isn't based on programming with the note blocks, you may want to consider a music making program; programs such as Anvil Studio or Finale Notepad allow you to create MIDI files with multiple instrument tracks, you will just need an additional program to have the MIDI programs converted into an appropriate music file type for Scratch.
You may also be interested in MyRedNeptune's response to the problem, which is in this thread here: http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=17020
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#4 2009-06-24 13:25:57
Re: My band won't stay together!
hmnwilson wrote:
That's scratch's lag problem.
The only way to get around it is (in 1.4) go to Edit > Set single stepping > Turbo speed. It should sync them up, but you have to do that every time you open the project.
Thanks.
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#5 2009-06-24 13:27:14
Re: My band won't stay together!
cheddargirl wrote:
I've experienced this before on one of my projects, and what hmnwilson says is correct.
If the theme of the project isn't based on programming with the note blocks, you may want to consider a music making program; programs such as Anvil Studio or Finale Notepad allow you to create MIDI files with multiple instrument tracks, you will just need an additional program to have the MIDI programs converted into an appropriate music file type for Scratch.
You may also be interested in MyRedNeptune's response to the problem, which is in this thread here: http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=17020
I have Finale, but the point of the project is to make it on Scratch.
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#7 2009-06-27 21:40:43
Re: My band won't stay together!
scmb1 wrote:
cheddargirl wrote:
I've experienced this before on one of my projects, and what hmnwilson says is correct.
If the theme of the project isn't based on programming with the note blocks, you may want to consider a music making program; programs such as Anvil Studio or Finale Notepad allow you to create MIDI files with multiple instrument tracks, you will just need an additional program to have the MIDI programs converted into an appropriate music file type for Scratch.
You may also be interested in MyRedNeptune's response to the problem, which is in this thread here: http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=17020I have Finale, but the point of the project is to make it on Scratch.
Well, you could just make it on any sound editor (e.g. Garageband, Finale, etc.) Garageband is easiest if you have a MIDI instrument available, Finale I don't think supports that (at least, not the version at my school)
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#8 2009-07-03 17:32:17
Re: My band won't stay together!
coolstuff wrote:
scmb1 wrote:
cheddargirl wrote:
I've experienced this before on one of my projects, and what hmnwilson says is correct.
If the theme of the project isn't based on programming with the note blocks, you may want to consider a music making program; programs such as Anvil Studio or Finale Notepad allow you to create MIDI files with multiple instrument tracks, you will just need an additional program to have the MIDI programs converted into an appropriate music file type for Scratch.
You may also be interested in MyRedNeptune's response to the problem, which is in this thread here: http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=17020I have Finale, but the point of the project is to make it on Scratch.
Well, you could just make it on any sound editor (e.g. Garageband, Finale, etc.) Garageband is easiest if you have a MIDI instrument available, Finale I don't think supports that (at least, not the version at my school)
I think Finale supports MIDI but I haven't tried.
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#9 2009-07-03 19:14:12
Re: My band won't stay together!
scmb1 wrote:
coolstuff wrote:
scmb1 wrote:
I have Finale, but the point of the project is to make it on Scratch.Well, you could just make it on any sound editor (e.g. Garageband, Finale, etc.) Garageband is easiest if you have a MIDI instrument available, Finale I don't think supports that (at least, not the version at my school)
I think Finale supports MIDI but I haven't tried.
Well, our school has a very old version of Finale, so it might not be supported in that version but will probably work in newer versions.
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#10 2009-07-03 19:48:36
- cheddargirl
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Re: My band won't stay together!
coolstuff wrote:
scmb1 wrote:
coolstuff wrote:
Well, you could just make it on any sound editor (e.g. Garageband, Finale, etc.) Garageband is easiest if you have a MIDI instrument available, Finale I don't think supports that (at least, not the version at my school)I think Finale supports MIDI but I haven't tried.
Well, our school has a very old version of Finale, so it might not be supported in that version but will probably work in newer versions.
To my knowledge, Finale Notepad 2008 and up utilizes a computer's MIDI sound system and is capable of exporting sounds in MIDI format. FYI, just in case anybody wished to know. 
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