Scratch

I don't know about a separate website for better users. Seems kinda unfair to new users.

It would be neat to see more user statistics though.

Yes, but if a project was made by a golden user or a silver user etc. it would automatically have a tag that said "gold user" or "silver user" etc.

Wow, this is a good idea, they could have a highest ranking user ever page and it would be a popularity measure so people could set goals for themselves. I think this would be a great addition to the scratch site, it might make users a bit more competitive though.

kgordon wrote:

Wow, this is a good idea, they could have a highest ranking user ever page and it would be a popularity measure so people could set goals for themselves. I think this would be a great addition to the scratch site, it might make users a bit more competitive though.

You're right, but some site that have forums do something like that. They include points for how kind and helpful a user has been, and is degraded if they are rude

I think it's a nice idea, but wouldn't it result in competition, showing off, bragging, etc.? I get the feeling that the users who would obtain the Elite Rank would support this idea, but many of the newer users would disagree.
But a good idea anyway.

Last edited by Chrischb (2009-06-23 01:46:13)

archmage wrote:

I don't know about a separate website for better users. Seems kinda unfair to new users.

It would be neat to see more user statistics though.

I didn't say anything about a separate website, I mentioned a separate section of the website.  Where they have the home, projects, galleries, support, etc. sections, there should be one for "Elite Scratchers" where the Elite Scratchers with the most points have their projects displayed.

P.S.  And to everyone who mentioned competition among Scratchers, the way I see it, it would simply be a friendly competition to drive people to make better projects.  It would raise the bar, so to speak.

P.P.S.  And archmage, people like you would probably have millions of points by now, so you should be supporting me!

i like the idea and maybe you could have a little emblem next to your name like the admins

Actually love its mean almost nothing with all the people loving bad quality projects for their music (taken from another site) if you want to rate a project.

I do not think this is too much of a good idea.
What if someone made tons of really bad projects? They would probably get more views than someone who makes a few good projects.
A view shows that someone is trying it, not that they thought it was any good, they might hate it.
New users may quit, it will start fights between high and low ranks, people who already get loads of fame will get loads more while users left at the bottom of the pile are just considered as noobs even if their project is good.

If this is put in at all, views should take away your score, why?
If a project has 1000 views but only 12 love its, it is a whole lot worse than a project with 54 views and 12 love its, isn't it?

I don't think players should be talled that they are less important than certain users and more important than others.
Everyone should be treated fairly, people who got lucky with views would brag and get big-headed and new users would probably quit when people keep on thinking they can order them about just because they are a lower rank.

When a user first joins scratch its a time when they are most likely to think "Well this is stupid, I'm leaving", ranking them under everyone else would just make them feel more like quitting.

Spam will increase, users will spam links to their projects all over just to get a high rank.
People will just make loads of accounts to love projects on their main account and unfairly gain ranks.
Having a ranking system may encourage people who make gangs or are in gangs.

It will also make the whole site competitive, sometimes that's a good thing but sometimes not.
Everyone will feel like they have to constantly rush, and beat others. People will make gangs only allowing people lucky enough to get lots of views and so on.

It will also slightly encourage insulting and bullying.
E.G: "Low rank idiot, stop being lazy and make some good projects"
E.G2: "Ha ha, look at the low rank noob pretending to be cool"

Overall, I think this idea would have a really negative effect on the community, will make games worse, and make people quit.

Bad idea.

Last edited by colorfusion (2010-08-02 10:56:16)

VilceGT wrote:

Why not just give a special rank to users who makes good projects (given by admins or moderators).
On the projects page you add a link "Suggestions", a page who regroup the suggestions make by the special users. It would be nice to show the really good projects of new users.

That would then be like featured and curated. 

I don't think scores or rankings will improve this creative (not competitive) community.

Instead I think we should make it easy to categorize and find the types of projects we're interested in, and be able to request specific help/attention, while helping others to increase our chances of getting help/attention to our hard work. 
Our helpful activity and quality projects will speak for us better than a score or rank.

Last edited by AddZero (2010-08-02 14:05:31)

THIS IDEA IS EPIC
                        FAIL

This idea WILL make all of the new users quit, be jelous (>_< spelt wrong I think), and if they stay, they might Adblock the better users so they don't have to think about them. >_<
Even Bunneh and Mouseh hate this idea.

Chrischb wrote:

There's no need to be so harsh... :/
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As I said [over a year ago :P], I disagree - placing rankings is prone to make users show off, look down on others, cheat, and so on; a similar thing seems to be happening with post counts (when someone makes a thread cheering for themself such as "woo, 1000 posts", sometimes those with higher post counts act sarcastic :P). :(

Sure we do, Chris.

:D
But actually, I don't see your point. Higher ranked users would act sarcastic over someone getting some ranking below them? What's the matter with that? As long as they don't act like jerks, sarcasm is okay