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demosthenes wrote:

Blade-Edge wrote:

as far as i'm concerened this is spam

also who cares?
being an atheist wont affect your programming skills

So things like Orly the Owl has more a place in scratch than a a totally unbiased post discussing recent changes in certain religious bodies. In the first post of this thread there is not a single thing said that is not fact!

illusionist wrote:

This is NOT a scratch related forum. It does not belong in Scratch.

and the aforementioned Orly the Owl is scratch related?

FantasyTales wrote:

but seriously religion is a choice, you cant force your opinion on others

if only this were true, throughout history almost all religious entities have started religious wars in an attempt to convert people to their faith.

i was telling them the way things should be in the hopes that they would be that way 

pinochio wrote:

im agnostic. so? and i used to be athiest. so? why do you care... and if you dont like my belief then dont go on scratch

I don't think we are asking anybody to like or dislike your beliefs...just to be tolerant and respectful of them 

So...I am interested (and if you feel like discussing it)...what made you decide to switch from an athesitic viewpoint to an agnostic one?  Was there a particular argument about the existance of a Supreme Being that you found persuasive or was it more of just a feeling?

first off, i have no idea what agnostics are
and second atheists dont believe in god?
then why do they think satan is real?

atheism is worship of the devil, actually

Blade-Edge wrote:

first off, i have no idea what agnostics are
and second atheists dont believe in god?
then why do they think satan is real?

From Webster's www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary :

Atheist - One who believes there is no deity.

Agnostic -  A person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable ; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god.

I don't know of any atheists who believe in Satan or a devil.

pinochio wrote:

...how do we know what is true. so i decided to become aethiest, when i realized actually i did not have an opinion about god so i became agnostic.

Thanks for explaining your views.  My own views are very close to yours, as a matter of fact 

Blade-Edge wrote:

atheism is worship of the devil, actually

That's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard.

How can you worship a being that you do not believe exists?

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Fundementally, we are all almost atheists.  Just that out of the hundreds (thousands?) of gods a Christian/Jew/Muslim doesn't believe in, an atheist doesn't believe in just one more.

Blade-Edge wrote:

so let me get this right.
mayhem and fantasy are the same person?
that explains alot

why do people keep thinking im somebody else
im not the same person as mayhem,
my accounts are
fantasytales
fantasytales_test
ScratchAwards
THATS IT!

Blade-Edge wrote:

yeah, just that you said the exact same thing as he did
down to the very word

Gah! I'm sick of people crying "fraud" at these threads! About people who have the same opinions: Just be happy about them and realize that they are not all clones!

Blade-Edge wrote:

one more thing. i dont care
so bye now

Still waiting...

You need to develop your reading comprehension skills.

Fantasy Tales was not giving the same reply as me, he was quoting me because he found my statement amusing.

Though why I am replying to someone who, in their own words "doesn't care" I don't know...  An in-built habit of correcting other peoples mistakes, perhaps.

Mayhem wrote:

You need to develop your reading comprehension skills.

Fantasy Tales was not giving the same reply as me, he was quoting me because he found my statement amusing.

This seems a bit didactic - I was also confused by the paragraph under discussion.  Notably missing were the usual visual cues that generally designate a quote, ie:  quotation marks or the quote /quote box.

Let's cut each other a bit of slack 

yeah but i wasnt paying attention to that
i just got confuzed by that thing that paddle mentioned

hmmm.... Alright. Let me say this one more time. (I don't know if I've already said this on scratch, but here it goes) Humanism beliefs are taught whether on purpose or on accident. You can't stop that.  Even though religion would still exist. In the future, I can see where there would be no religic discussion outside of church or outside of your own home. This is a very durastic change from the 1600 where everyone discussed religion freely, for every nation had only one religion. Now it's alot more complicated, esecially here in the united states where we have one big curry plater of cultures all in one nation. Around here, it's best not to have a religion at all.

On another note.  aren't christians supposed to love everyone? even non-believers? I don't know why this worries you.... (sorry if your not christian, because you sure do sound like it, no offence)

Last edited by torterra (2009-07-17 12:13:14)

i agree with bigbang