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#1 2009-03-16 06:37:32

Lanie
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Please have a Limit for Front Page

I beg of you to please put a limit of how many times a user can get on the front page. I know there is probably a similar post but, Its getting annoying. Im not trying to sound harsh but all I see is  MaskedStar,Maho, Warrior Cats, Anime, all day long for the past month. Im trying to search for a variety. I wish there was some way there could be limit. There are a lot of projects out there with variety and I know the users cant help that they get on the front page because its the community but its seems like they have taken over. I love the Featured Users part that what I look forward too know because I know there are no cats in there or the same type of project!

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#2 2009-03-16 06:42:54

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

Lanie wrote:

I beg of you to please put a limit of how many times a user can get on the front page. I know there is probably a similar post but, Its getting annoying. Im not trying to sound harsh but all I see is  MaskedStar,Maho, Warrior Cats, Anime, all day long for the past month. Im trying to search for a variety. I wish there was some way there could be limit. There are a lot of projects out there with variety and I know the users cant help that they get on the front page because its the community but its seems like they have taken over. I love the Featured Users part that what I look forward too know because I know there are no cats in there or the same type of project!

Totally agree with you
yeah, I have nothing against them too but the system is so glitchy, for instance, my mario chute project has 21 love its and still isnt on the front page! also, the last featured project is something i did earlier than the current author but mine did'nt get featured

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#3 2009-03-16 11:43:25

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

Yeah, the latest frontpage projects are all the same by the same users. I am kinda sick of cats and anime now. There haven't been any neat programs for a while. And there is no way any user should have 3 spots for the same project because it kills the purpose of the different sections.

I heard that andres is going to address this problem soon so it should be ok.


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#4 2009-03-16 11:58:01

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

What about a randomizer for each "top" category?

Example: assume there are about 30 projects that have at least 200 pageviews or more within 24 hours, and assume that having 200+ pageviews within 24 hours is the minimum criteria for getting onto the front page for "Top Viewed".* Instead of automatically picking the top three, have the randomizer randomly pick three out of all thirty projects every ten minutes or so.

*Note: I'm still a bit of a newbie around this site. If someone could explain to me the exact criteria of how the "top" categories actually work, it would be helpful in suggesting a solution for this problem.


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#5 2009-03-18 07:00:24

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

I think it should keep the same system, but install a project on the front page counter. And if within like 5 days if one user has more than 3 spots you kick all of them out and that user can't appear on the front page for at least a week. Or you could have like a time limit for the longest one project can stay on the frontpage. Like 4 days. Anyone like those ideas?


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#6 2009-03-18 07:01:39

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

cheddargirl wrote:

What about a randomizer for each "top" category?

Example: assume there are about 30 projects that have at least 200 pageviews or more within 24 hours, and assume that having 200+ pageviews within 24 hours is the minimum criteria for getting onto the front page for "Top Viewed".* Instead of automatically picking the top three, have the randomizer randomly pick three out of all thirty projects every ten minutes or so.

*Note: I'm still a bit of a newbie around this site. If someone could explain to me the exact criteria of how the "top" categories actually work, it would be helpful in suggesting a solution for this problem.

Thats kind of like surprise projects.


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#7 2009-03-18 08:20:58

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

Yeah, I like both ideas. (but which one to choose from...)

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#8 2009-03-18 14:36:26

cheddargirl
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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

bosox397 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

What about a randomizer for each "top" category?

Example: assume there are about 30 projects that have at least 200 pageviews or more within 24 hours, and assume that having 200+ pageviews within 24 hours is the minimum criteria for getting onto the front page for "Top Viewed".* Instead of automatically picking the top three, have the randomizer randomly pick three out of all thirty projects every ten minutes or so.

*Note: I'm still a bit of a newbie around this site. If someone could explain to me the exact criteria of how the "top" categories actually work, it would be helpful in suggesting a solution for this problem.

That's kind of like surprise projects.

Of course it is, but I'm assuming the "Surprise Projects" catergory here on the SCRATCH website does not have time, pageview, favorite, 'Love it!' constraints (unless, of course, I'm wrong again here, because I'm still a newbie). Applying the constraints in conjunction with a randomizer instead of just picking the top three can help prevent constant redundancy of certain projects appearing consistently in the "Top" categories, and I don't believe it would be that hard to implement.


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#9 2009-03-23 20:53:00

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

Lanie wrote:

I beg of you to please put a limit of how many times a user can get on the front page. I know there is probably a similar post but, Its getting annoying. Im not trying to sound harsh but all I see is  MaskedStar,Maho, Warrior Cats, Anime, all day long for the past month. Im trying to search for a variety. I wish there was some way there could be limit. There are a lot of projects out there with variety and I know the users cant help that they get on the front page because its the community but its seems like they have taken over. I love the Featured Users part that what I look forward too know because I know there are no cats in there or the same type of project!

Yeah, I'm pretty sick of warrior cats.  I don't really care who BrambleThornStarPaw or FireLavaCatFaceHead is.  I'm also sick of manga.  Every time I look at the front page there's some project that's a badly drawn picture of some anime person's huge eyeballs that just has sappy music and 1 script.  Not only is it really lame, it's also not a very good example of programming.  So whoever decides what goes on the front page has strange taste.  My other proof of this is in the "most downloaded" category, there was an anime project that had about 28 downloads.  Then I remembered:  "Hey!  One of my projects has over 50 downloads!"  And I bet someone else has even more.  So, yeah, the front page has many problems.


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#10 2009-03-23 20:56:37

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

Yeah I just hate looking at the frontpage now. I can only tolerate a certain amount of anime, cats, and anime cats...


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#11 2009-03-23 20:56:45

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

Bentheneighbor wrote:

Lanie wrote:

I beg of you to please put a limit of how many times a user can get on the front page. I know there is probably a similar post but, Its getting annoying. Im not trying to sound harsh but all I see is  MaskedStar,Maho, Warrior Cats, Anime, all day long for the past month. Im trying to search for a variety. I wish there was some way there could be limit. There are a lot of projects out there with variety and I know the users cant help that they get on the front page because its the community but its seems like they have taken over. I love the Featured Users part that what I look forward too know because I know there are no cats in there or the same type of project!

Yeah, I'm pretty sick of warrior cats.  I don't really care who BrambleThornStarPaw or FireLavaCatFaceHead is.  I'm also sick of manga.  Every time I look at the front page there's some project that's a badly drawn picture of some anime person's huge eyeballs that just has sappy music and 1 script.  Not only is it really lame, it's also not a very good example of programming.  So whoever decides what goes on the front page has strange taste.  My other proof of this is in the "most downloaded" category, there was an anime project that had about 28 downloads.  Then I remembered:  "Hey!  One of my projects has over 50 downloads!"  And I bet someone else has even more.  So, yeah, the front page has many problems.

Once again, the front page is determined on who has the most downloads in a certain time block. Or else the most downloaded project on scratch would always be there, same with loved and viewed. But yes I am sick of these projects. And no offense to Maskedstar or Kaotheroogancreator but I don't care if you have heartburn or some sickness that makes your head hurt! You don't have to make a project about it!!! And the worse part is, the heartburn project got TOP LOVED!!!!!!! What is wrong with people these days?


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#12 2009-03-23 21:01:12

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

Bentheneighbor wrote:

Lanie wrote:

I beg of you to please put a limit of how many times a user can get on the front page. I know there is probably a similar post but, Its getting annoying. Im not trying to sound harsh but all I see is  MaskedStar,Maho, Warrior Cats, Anime, all day long for the past month. Im trying to search for a variety. I wish there was some way there could be limit. There are a lot of projects out there with variety and I know the users cant help that they get on the front page because its the community but its seems like they have taken over. I love the Featured Users part that what I look forward too know because I know there are no cats in there or the same type of project!

Yeah, I'm pretty sick of warrior cats.  I don't really care who BrambleThornStarPaw or FireLavaCatFaceHead is.  I'm also sick of manga.  Every time I look at the front page there's some project that's a badly drawn picture of some anime person's huge eyeballs that just has sappy music and 1 script.  Not only is it really lame, it's also not a very good example of programming.  So whoever decides what goes on the front page has strange taste.  My other proof of this is in the "most downloaded" category, there was an anime project that had about 28 downloads.  Then I remembered:  "Hey!  One of my projects has over 50 downloads!"  And I bet someone else has even more.  So, yeah, the front page has many problems.

LOL. So, I agree. I am sick of stupid (no offence) anime cats junk and crud. DO SOMETHING@@


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#13 2009-03-24 15:42:30

bosox397
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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

alexpja wrote:

Bentheneighbor wrote:

Lanie wrote:

I beg of you to please put a limit of how many times a user can get on the front page. I know there is probably a similar post but, Its getting annoying. Im not trying to sound harsh but all I see is  MaskedStar,Maho, Warrior Cats, Anime, all day long for the past month. Im trying to search for a variety. I wish there was some way there could be limit. There are a lot of projects out there with variety and I know the users cant help that they get on the front page because its the community but its seems like they have taken over. I love the Featured Users part that what I look forward too know because I know there are no cats in there or the same type of project!

Yeah, I'm pretty sick of warrior cats.  I don't really care who BrambleThornStarPaw or FireLavaCatFaceHead is.  I'm also sick of manga.  Every time I look at the front page there's some project that's a badly drawn picture of some anime person's huge eyeballs that just has sappy music and 1 script.  Not only is it really lame, it's also not a very good example of programming.  So whoever decides what goes on the front page has strange taste.  My other proof of this is in the "most downloaded" category, there was an anime project that had about 28 downloads.  Then I remembered:  "Hey!  One of my projects has over 50 downloads!"  And I bet someone else has even more.  So, yeah, the front page has many problems.

LOL. So, I agree. I am sick of stupid (no offence) anime cats junk and crud. DO SOMETHING@@

Well finally a good project is on top loved. Boltbait's hangman


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#14 2009-03-24 15:48:33

golfer3
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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

bosox397 wrote:

Bentheneighbor wrote:

Lanie wrote:

I beg of you to please put a limit of how many times a user can get on the front page. I know there is probably a similar post but, Its getting annoying. Im not trying to sound harsh but all I see is  MaskedStar,Maho, Warrior Cats, Anime, all day long for the past month. Im trying to search for a variety. I wish there was some way there could be limit. There are a lot of projects out there with variety and I know the users cant help that they get on the front page because its the community but its seems like they have taken over. I love the Featured Users part that what I look forward too know because I know there are no cats in there or the same type of project!

Yeah, I'm pretty sick of warrior cats.  I don't really care who BrambleThornStarPaw or FireLavaCatFaceHead is.  I'm also sick of manga.  Every time I look at the front page there's some project that's a badly drawn picture of some anime person's huge eyeballs that just has sappy music and 1 script.  Not only is it really lame, it's also not a very good example of programming.  So whoever decides what goes on the front page has strange taste.  My other proof of this is in the "most downloaded" category, there was an anime project that had about 28 downloads.  Then I remembered:  "Hey!  One of my projects has over 50 downloads!"  And I bet someone else has even more.  So, yeah, the front page has many problems.

Once again, the front page is determined on who has the most downloads in a certain time block. Or else the most downloaded project on scratch would always be there, same with loved and viewed. But yes I am sick of these projects. And no offense to Maskedstar or Kaotheroogancreator but I don't care if you have heartburn or some sickness that makes your head hurt! You don't have to make a project about it!!! And the worse part is, the heartburn project got TOP LOVED!!!!!!! What is wrong with people these days?

totaly agree... at least that hangman game is there

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#15 2009-03-26 00:16:33

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

Yeah... I agree totally. I guess others should have a chance too.
The worst part is none of these Scratch "celebrities" can do anything about it. It is nice to get on the front page once in a while, but sometimes your projects end up there even when you don't want them to. It's happened before to some people.
Anyway, I'm hoping the Scratch Team, Magical Scratch Cat or whatever can do something about this. What if people can only have one project Front-Paged at a time?

Maki-Tak


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#16 2009-03-26 07:07:29

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

Maki-Tak wrote:

Yeah... I agree totally. I guess others should have a chance too.
The worst part is none of these Scratch "celebrities" can do anything about it. It is nice to get on the front page once in a while, but sometimes your projects end up there even when you don't want them to. It's happened before to some people.
Anyway, I'm hoping the Scratch Team, Magical Scratch Cat or whatever can do something about this. What if people can only have one project Front-Paged at a time?

Maki-Tak

Yah if you remember when I was on the front page for the long time I didn't really want Infinite Game up there cuz all it was was a gif. But now its all the anime cats which get really annoying. Anyway, boltbait's taking it back. So root him on


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#17 2009-03-27 02:16:45

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

We have made a couple of changes to the front page. The first is that self-remixes are not counted towards Top Remixes. The second, is that a project can only appear only once on the front page. This is a first step. We're still working on further changes.


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#18 2009-03-27 07:02:49

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

andresmh wrote:

We have made a couple of changes to the front page. The first is that self-remixes are not counted towards Top Remixes. The second, is that a project can only appear only once on the front page. This is a first step. We're still working on further changes.

So like if a project gets on top viewed, it can't be top loved?


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#19 2009-03-27 07:49:26

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

bosox397 wrote:

andresmh wrote:

We have made a couple of changes to the front page. The first is that self-remixes are not counted towards Top Remixes. The second, is that a project can only appear only once on the front page. This is a first step. We're still working on further changes.

So like if a project gets on top viewed, it can't be top loved?

I believe that it has an order that it works through...it checks for Top Loved first, if it is on that, then it won't show up on Top Viewed or Top Downloaded.


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#20 2009-03-27 13:08:41

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

I agree with you! And I think that it would be a good idea to make it so a user can only get a certain number of projects on the front page and when they surpass that limit that user can't get anything on the front page for maybe 5 months because if I was the user that got stuff on the front page and then found out hat I could'n get anything ever on the front page again I would be majorly bummed.


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#21 2009-03-27 13:46:51

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

bosox397 wrote:

I think it should keep the same system, but install a project on the front page counter. And if within like 5 days if one user has more than 3 spots you kick all of them out and that user can't appear on the front page for at least a week. Or you could have like a time limit for the longest one project can stay on the frontpage. Like 4 days. Anyone like those ideas?

Yes I like the Idea.


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#22 2009-03-27 13:57:15

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

adityasm9 wrote:

Lanie wrote:

I beg of you to please put a limit of how many times a user can get on the front page. I know there is probably a similar post but, Its getting annoying. Im not trying to sound harsh but all I see is  MaskedStar,Maho, Warrior Cats, Anime, all day long for the past month. Im trying to search for a variety. I wish there was some way there could be limit. There are a lot of projects out there with variety and I know the users cant help that they get on the front page because its the community but its seems like they have taken over. I love the Featured Users part that what I look forward too know because I know there are no cats in there or the same type of project!

Totally agree with you
yeah, I have nothing against them too but the system is so glitchy, for instance, my mario chute project has 21 love its and still isnt on the front page! also, the last featured project is something i did earlier than the current author but mine did'nt get featured

The front page is not "glitchy" at all the way the Top Loved Lately works is the project that gets the most Loveits in the fastest amount of time gets on Top loved Lately that is wy your project is not on the front page.


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#23 2009-03-27 15:09:41

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

There are time restrictions for front page. They are rough outlines and are often changed. Top viewed is about 3-4 days or so. Top loved is 5-7 days or so. Top downloaded is 1 week or so. I think they have been changed often as the Scratch population increases.

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#24 2009-03-27 15:37:04

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

Oh my god, yes!!!! Thank u, Andersmh, thank u! The freaking anime warriorcat hampster stuff has gotten so old! But it looks like the new system is working! For the first time since I've joined scratch, only one project from either maskedstar, doody, or mahoashley is on front page! It's a freaking miracle!!!! *sniff* I think I'm going to cry! But u may also want to make it so that each user can only have one project on front page at one time, cuz I'm sure there'll be more projects from maskedstar and maho up there soon. Also, I'd like to see a new "best games" category. Even tho there aren't so many warriorcat or anime projects up right now, there r still a lot of non-game or animation projects up there, and I feel that the "program" in "imagine, program, share" is being lost. People should be able to see what scratch can really do if used correctly.

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#25 2009-03-27 15:52:36

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Re: Please have a Limit for Front Page

Delocuro wrote:

Oh my god, yes!!!! Thank u, Andersmh, thank u! The freaking anime warriorcat hampster stuff has gotten so old! But it looks like the new system is working! For the first time since I've joined scratch, only one project from either maskedstar, doody, or mahoashley is on front page! It's a freaking miracle!!!! *sniff* I think I'm going to cry!

lol

Anyway btt

Yeah i agree. It's not that they're terrible because i'm a fine one to talk but all i see is masked star and all.


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