Scratch

juststickman wrote:

big-bang wrote:

scratchcritic564 wrote:

I agree. no offesnse, rico, but you obviously have problems, if you have to ban a site because of a few games with cartoon violence. as i've noticed, adults are always overprotective when it comes to violence. seriously, Super Smash Bros. Brawl is very non-violent, but somehow it got rated teen. and on scratch, blood is basicly nothing more than red stuff created in the paint editor.

I was wondering about Brawl. I was about to get it, but then I noticed the rating. I guess it's just the fighting itself, but still... good luck trying to pull a Final Smash on a jerk who shoves you over a fence.

ratings are just guidelines. Everything depends on you. I could read at 3 years, everyone in my school started at 6. I was allowed to play runescape, they were too. I'm not allowed to play gory games (or was it I don't like to I can't remember) but some people in my grade are.

There is no blood or gore on brawl.The only t thing is mixed (not mild)cartoon violence and crude humor.

All4one wrote:

rico wrote:

I have been using and promoting Scratch as a way to introduce students in grades 3 through 5. We have enjoyed what we've done very much, and the students and I have learned a lot with lots more to learn. We've always had these rules: #1. No human victims, #2. Nothing violent. And now my students have shown me Scratch programs like this one:

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Comcastc99/71491

Can anything be done to clean up Scratch, or should I abandon its use at our school and block the site? If I'm the only one who thinks this type of violence is inappropriate then that's what I'll have to do. It's been fun while it lasted, however. I've got students watching the Naruto Christmas Special over and over again.

I don't want to see that thing if it's innapropriate. So can you tell me why was it so bad?

It isn't. I don't mean to offend you Rico, but Rico is paranoid and overprotective when it comes to violence. He would ban a site if it had MILD CARTOON violence apparently, you can watch. I'm a kid and I laughed for about 30 seconds....

Comcastc99 wrote:

For those of you reading this, I believe that you are familiar with my project, the Naruto Christmas Special, which I must say is a project that I myself am ashamed to be associated with.  I am not a violent person by nature, and although I must say that some p[projects are certainly too violent to be published, I believe that people should recognize the freedom of others to express themselves.  Violence, while not a good thing, can neither be completely banned, nor totally erased from Scratch.  While I do intend to remove several of my projects, I must say that blocking projects on the basis of them being too violent is just as bad as banning projects becuase they aren't violent enough.  While I am, as I said, going to remove projects of mine that are too violent, it is up to the users of Scratch to maintain some level of control over the projects that they do or do not view.  Someone who is opposed to violence SHOULD NOT view a violent project, and then complain.  Forming a regime in which only projects that are devoid of any sort of violence are permissible can not end positively.  As such, I believe that, while Scratch projects should not exhibit use of drugs or alcohol, language, racial slurs, or extreme violence, I also believe that users should have some area in which they can design a project.
In conclusion, I must say that users cannot be judged on the content of their projects, and that policing he Scratch network to erase violent projects will accomplish nothing, and as such will be a useless endeavor.  Scratch was made on the basis of "Imagine-Program-Share", and it is not up to others what I, or any other Scratch user can imagine.

WHY DID YOU DELETE IT???????????? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY WHY WHY WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?????????????????????????????????????

Aw I wanted to see the game 

On the bright side, I just found out I'm un banned from the rest of the site 

juststickman wrote:

All4one wrote:

rico wrote:

I have been using and promoting Scratch as a way to introduce students in grades 3 through 5. We have enjoyed what we've done very much, and the students and I have learned a lot with lots more to learn. We've always had these rules: #1. No human victims, #2. Nothing violent. And now my students have shown me Scratch programs like this one:

http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Comcastc99/71491

Can anything be done to clean up Scratch, or should I abandon its use at our school and block the site? If I'm the only one who thinks this type of violence is inappropriate then that's what I'll have to do. It's been fun while it lasted, however. I've got students watching the Naruto Christmas Special over and over again.

I don't want to see that thing if it's innapropriate. So can you tell me why was it so bad?

It isn't. I don't mean to offend you Rico, but Rico is paranoid and overprotective when it comes to violence. He would ban a site if it had MILD CARTOON violence apparently, you can watch. I'm a kid and I laughed for about 30 seconds....

No offence... but you kinda have some innapropriate stuff yourself.

All4one wrote:

juststickman wrote:

All4one wrote:

I don't want to see that thing if it's innapropriate. So can you tell me why was it so bad?

It isn't. I don't mean to offend you Rico, but Rico is paranoid and overprotective when it comes to violence. He would ban a site if it had MILD CARTOON violence apparently, you can watch. I'm a kid and I laughed for about 30 seconds....

No offence... but you kinda have some innapropriate stuff yourself.

Ok... Tell me what it is? My sig is just a joke, I guess everybody would get that. But what stuff then?

if violence and blood and "mild language"(stupid,freaking,ect..)are so bad,then why do games and videos and other animations like that getting on the front page?for instance:Charlie the monkey(one of my other accounts projects)has alot of that stuff!

Blade-Edge wrote:

has this topic been resolved?
yes. so close it already

I'm not sure there really is a resolution...there are always going to be differing opinions about what is acceptable and what is not.  I'm going to leave this open so that others can express their opinions 

juststickman wrote:

All4one wrote:

justtestingstickman wrote:

Ok... Tell me what it is? My sig is just a joke, I guess everybody would get that. But what stuff then?

Uh... your...sign and projects, I guess? I'm sorry if I hurt you feeling, I wasn't trying to.

Didn't hurt my feelings... I'm just confused about exactly WHICH projects are inappropriate and WHY?

Well... technically I didn't see your projects... I take it all back, I'm sorry.

my 6 year old cousin plays doom 3
big deal

truf777 wrote:

it is awfull to know that this scratch CMS is being used for teaching violence

Did you just skip over the whole topic or something?
And why did you even bump this? It's been resolved

No. What opinion has been reached? I thought the point of this thread was about some guy's game, and the guy thought it was too bloody and gory so he was deciding wether to get rid of it or not. In the end, he got rid of it, so I assumed that would be a topic close.
I don't care about your opinion either way