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I think it would be hard to put a line on how much violence is allowed.
Instead maybe have project makers rate out of 10 how violent their project is while publishing it, and people and school admins can then choose to not let projects over a certain violence rating show up.

I personally don't see anything wrong with violence, unless the person can tell the difference between life and videos games which most people can.

colorfusion wrote:

I think it would be hard to put a line on how much violence is allowed.
Instead maybe have project makers rate out of 10 how violent their project is while publishing it, and people and school admins can then choose to not let projects over a certain violence rating show up.

That does sound like a good idea, but people can get around it if they want to. To add to it, people could rate the appropriate-ness or whatever of a project, and it would be averaged, to help that. I do think that is a great idea, and it would be helpful.

Last edited by Cmodude (2010-08-17 16:46:50)

Ok, Does that include boss entrances and speeches?
"I Shall erase you, and your worthless Kingdom with you!" Can't be classed as violent can it?

coolperson wrote:

I personally beleive that there should be no projects that if they were made a game would be rated M should be on scratch. BUT, because people as young as 8 years old can be on scratch, there should be a rating system. There will be games for all ages, 10 and up, 12 and up, and 13 and up. Please tell me what you think!

I find that to be highly unlikely. People could abuse it and only make it so all projects would be 13 and up.

Well, their was a Scratch Project where you kill zombies, but it was really gory and had a few cuss words in it, so I think everybody should support the removal of inappropriate projects from Scratch.

  how do you add pictures!

Locomule wrote:

that's a pretty violent looking smiley, somebody better do something fast!

Since I greatly admire you, I would like to know, what do you think about violent Scratch projects?

Last edited by calebxy (2010-08-25 16:52:15)

Rico -
I think that if you let your students onto the website, make sure that they stay on featured projects or most liked or most remixed.  Projects that are violent and inappropriate don't get to those places.

Last edited by cutie146 (2010-11-20 07:02:27)

cutie146 wrote:

Rico -
I think that if you let your students onto the website, make sure that they stay on featured projects or most liked or most remixed.  Projects that are violent and inappropriate don't get to those places.

Possible, but many good scratch projects would never be seen, and some learning experiences ( including scratch tutorials) would be lost to the educational world.

Paddle2See wrote:

bosox397 wrote:

Scratch should try to install a filter system where they view the project before allowing it onto the website and if its bad they can not let it on the website. It'd be hard, but (i think) doable

That would be nice...but it would take a lot of people power to do.  There are somewhere around 1000 projects a day being loaded up to the website.  I don't think the project has the money to pay for the people that it would take to preview all of them.  That's why we are depending on you folks to flag projects that you consider inappropriate when you see them.  It's not an ideal situation but it's the best that can be provided for now.

The other issue - which started this thread - is what to use as a standard of "inappropriateness".  There are many different opinions of what is "inappropriate" and it is difficult to decide what standard to enforce.  By leaving it up to the viewing public, the team is getting useful feedback about what the public wants to see on the website.

Nice. 1000...

I have seen some unsuitible projects, but I report them. And while more recent games by 08Jackt do have blood, he added a feature to censor it.

I think that the amount of violence in a Scratch project should not exceed the amount of violence in an age-appropriate book. Sure, some rough things happen in stories, but that is what makes for a good read. If the violence, blood, or attacks are thought-provoking and not gratuitous, they can be tasteful, or even educational. I know it would be possible to portray a story of a war without scaring children, but still making them aware of the seriousness of the situation.

MyRedNeptune wrote:

Actually, it all depends on the way blood and violence is presented in a project. Sure, violence is part of our life, but when the blood is accented, that cannot be considered appropriate, because then the violence is taken not as "just a small part of life", but as something that life is all about. That is called gore, and that is, what I believe, Rico is afraid of.
And actually, sometimes it's hard to distinguish a violent concept from a non-violent one.
Sometimes, a project can be quite harmful without visible blood, projects that contain "emotional" violence. For example, they might encourage hatred towards a person or anything in itself or provoke negative feelings.

agreed