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#51 2009-03-24 15:12:14

SmartIrishKid
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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

6.5: Past Tense and Consonant Merging
The past is formed in -ant (-anne- with a suffix).  Needless to say, this also cancels vowel harmony.

Example: Ithildir han hébant Isildur kept it
Example: Hein galannar they grow

Certain final consonants before the stem will merge to form the past.

d » nt (nne-)
b » mp (mme-)
g » nc (ŋe-)

Notice that the ŋ is used in the same pattern as the double-n and m.  This is why it is on the same row as them in the Tengwar.

Example: Narvi hain echant Narvi made them
Example: han siŋech you stabbed it
Example: sammen I dug

Also is given the near past, which is formed in -i; this can have a suffix added to it.

Example: nallin I (just) called
Example: ho eglechi he went into exile

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#52 2009-03-24 15:31:29

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

6.6: Infinitives
The infinitive is formed in -ad (-id with i stems).

Example: avad to deny.
Example: derid to stop

The verbal noun is formed in -ad, -ed, -eth (-ith with i stems).

Example: govanneth a meeting
Example: Minas Tirith City of Watch(ing)


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#53 2009-03-24 20:10:50

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

6.7: Participles
The active present participle is formed in -l, -el (after i)

Example: en edhel linnol the singing elf
Example: en filigon blebiel the flapping bird

The active near past participle is formed in -iel.

Example: e chalad caliel the light having (just) shone

The active past participle is formed in -nniel (-iel extended off of the past suffix).  This changes to -nniel, -mmiel, or -ŋiel when the past merges.

Example: edhel lirniel an elf having sung
Example: en orch siŋiel the orc having stabbed

The passive participle (adjectival verb) is formed in -en.

Example: e thew teithen the written letter


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#54 2009-03-24 20:29:07

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

6.8: Miscellaneous Prefixes/Suffixes
The negative is formed in ú-.

Example: údartho do not stay

The verbal causative is formed in -to, -tho, -io.

Example: belo die » beltho kill
Example: eglechi go into exile » eglechio exile

The noun/adjective causative is formed in -io.

Example: per a half » perio halve

Ability is shown with -rial.

Example: medi count » aes medrial edible food


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#55 2009-03-24 20:37:14

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

Lesson 6 Review
Build your own sentences with all you have learned so far.  Experiment with different verb/noun combinations.  This is fun once you get used to it!

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#56 2009-03-26 16:57:07

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

ok i like lord of the rings i've read the hobbit and the felowship of the ring is there any website  that can teach me elvish?

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#57 2009-03-26 17:06:13

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

hirandomperson wrote:

ok i like lord of the rings i've read the hobbit and the felowship of the ring is there any website  that can teach me elvish?

I posted a few a while ago.  You can learn from here, as well.


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#58 2009-03-28 16:59:40

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

Could you possibly write an E-book on speaking elvish for my scratch library?


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#59 2009-03-29 12:26:58

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

I want to learn!

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#60 2009-03-30 10:31:05

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

adityasm9 wrote:

I want to learn!

Lucky you!  There are lessons within this thread.  smile


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#61 2009-03-30 21:49:00

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

Congratulations!
You have just completed my Sindarin Elvish course!  For additional information and complete wordlists, including a full list of prefixes and suffixes, go to:

http://home.netcom.com/~heensle/lang/elvish/elvish.html

This link also has instructions for Tolkien's High-elvish, Quenya.  However, none of the rules in my course apply to it.


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#62 2009-03-31 13:38:52

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

Woo! I can now speak Sindarin Elvish (or can suppose I speak it  smile )


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#63 2009-04-01 10:30:36

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

Hi lasto nin, Scratiorrim--Narbas hi peda Edhelen!!!  Eglerio!

Now hear me, all Scratchers--Toasty now speaks Elvish!!!  Congratulations!


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#64 2009-04-01 23:53:22

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

This is hard!!!

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#65 2009-04-11 11:47:32

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

ooh, this looks like fun!  big_smile


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#66 2009-04-18 10:51:41

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

uhhhh   this is kind of a pointless language to learn


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#67 2009-04-18 17:09:56

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

I know.  But it's fun.  wink


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#68 2009-04-18 18:11:59

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

SmartIrishKid wrote:

I know.  But it's fun.  wink

yeah! but its confuzzaling me brain.

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#69 2009-05-10 22:54:19

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

Confuzzaling. I'll add that to my english dictionary.
By the way, I have to memorize this!? Here is what I remember:
adan:man
aran:king
bein:fair(in appearance)

And that is all.

wink   This means to highlight.
(by the way, I once entertained myself with a story about a young prince whose last name was Aran
and he had a father known as king Aran, before I knew about elvish )

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#70 2009-06-11 05:53:30

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

hi here  smile   im trying to learn the elvish language from sites... your lessons is nice! but the first alphabet i found from english to elvish and i think it help me is Tengwar alphabet i think... (at  http://www.starchamber.com/paracelsus/elvish/elvish-in-ten-minutes.html ) and i like it.  i need help coz i want to make a tattoo in elvish language and i need someone to translate it without mistakes.... i hope u can give me a hand  big_smile

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#71 2009-06-11 10:05:05

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

katiOni wrote:

hi here  smile   im trying to learn the elvish language from sites... your lessons is nice! but the first alphabet i found from english to elvish and i think it help me is Tengwar alphabet i think... (at  http://www.starchamber.com/paracelsus/elvish/elvish-in-ten-minutes.html ) and i like it.  i need help coz i want to make a tattoo in elvish language and i need someone to translate it without mistakes.... i hope u can give me a hand  big_smile

Sure!  What do you want translated?


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#72 2009-06-11 13:04:28

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

hi smartirishkid  big_smile  i want to translate the phase " whatever life gives me , kills me. " at tengwar alphabet plz... are u want my msn for sending me the text by image? i dont know how can i get it.. many thx  big_smile  big_smile

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#73 2009-06-13 18:56:16

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

Can you teach me?


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#74 2009-06-15 21:21:29

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

Could I please learn this?


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#75 2010-10-14 21:57:26

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Re: Eldarin/Edhelen/Elvish

Can u help me learn Sindarin? I've got the basics down. I just need help with Forming sentences and learning more words.

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