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#1 2009-01-27 16:08:06

Lanie
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ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

What Is This About: ScratchR's Speak out is going to be a new project series that will 
                            be out every weekend. I need help due to the fact it will have 
                            information from the Scratch community.

How It Works: There will be a question/topic every week. All you have to do is
                     respond back with how you feel about the question/topic.

Note: Please respond with honesty, do not use fowl language, and do not disrespect
         someone because of there opinion. (think of the first amendment)
         Reason is it is going to be in the Issue and 
         you will be getting credit if you contribute your opinion. If you don't want your
         user name to be given out in the project just say so. You do not have to 
         participate every week, if you don't want to
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Weekly Topic/Question: What would you like to see in the next 
                                                              Scratch version
Ideas Risen From Topic:


LEAVE RESPONSE IN THE FORUMS
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Contributors
         *Lanie
         *Bosox397
         *Zelda123
         *Demosthenes
         *Techy
         *Magnie
         *Paddle2See
         *Spine
         *TheSaint
         *Toasty
         *Lucario621
         *Boinoinoi
         *LearningCentral
         *Technoguyx
         *Dan01
         *Markyiscool

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#2 2009-01-27 16:16:45

bosox397
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

Delete remixing


Dear Scratch Users,
I'm done with scratch, or at least making projects. I have made one last big game, thats both fun and teaches a lesson about water. It'd mean a lot if you gave me feedback.                              http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/bosox397/569201

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#3 2009-01-27 16:18:04

Lanie
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

lol nice Short and Simple, thanks for contributing  smile

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#4 2009-01-27 16:20:39

Zelda123
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

I do not feel like there is any problem; people can create projects with anything they want to (as long as they follow the Terms of Use).

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#5 2009-01-27 16:20:41

bosox397
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

when i say that, i mean delete top remixing section on the front page, sorry  smile


Dear Scratch Users,
I'm done with scratch, or at least making projects. I have made one last big game, thats both fun and teaches a lesson about water. It'd mean a lot if you gave me feedback.                              http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/bosox397/569201

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#6 2009-01-27 16:20:44

demosthenes
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

There is no remixing problem, everything on scratch is shared under the creative commons license, "You are free to Remix — to adapt the work", this clearly says that you are free to remix, although on this condition: "Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work)." That is the same thing as the "remix of __ project" tag under remixed projects.


I've taken a long hiatus, but I still visit sometimes. Give me some time to answer any messages you post on my projects!

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#7 2009-01-27 16:23:30

Lanie
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

Zelda123 wrote:

I do not feel like there is any problem; people can create projects with anything they want to (as long as they follow the Terms of Use).

Thank you for responding

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#8 2009-01-27 16:23:43

Lanie
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

demosthenes wrote:

There is no remixing problem, everything on scratch is shared under the creative commons license, "You are free to Remix — to adapt the work", this clearly says that you are free to remix, although on this condition: "Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work)." That is the same thing as the "remix of __ project" tag under remixed projects.

Thank you for contributing

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#9 2009-01-27 16:26:12

techy
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

Im in!! Ill contribute!


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#10 2009-01-27 16:27:30

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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

I would like it so people cant remix their own project and a project has maybe a max amount of remixes...


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#11 2009-01-27 16:27:30

Lanie
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

My intake: I don't think there is any problem at all with remixing. I think its a great way to show how you can improve someones project. If someone remixes it in an inappropriate way or does not follow terms of use then it can be a problem. If that occurs then it should just be dealt by the Scratch team.

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#12 2009-01-27 16:28:23

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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

techy wrote:

I would like it so people cant remix their own project and a project has maybe a max amount of remixes...

Thanx ^^

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#13 2009-01-27 16:32:15

demosthenes
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

techy wrote:

I would like it so people cant remix their own project and a project has maybe a max amount of remixes...

But then if I wanted to work on my own game I would always have to share it under the same name, what if I wanted my project to have a new look because I made so many changes, then what?


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#14 2009-01-27 16:32:28

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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

just how about u can't remix ur own project more than 10 times?


Dear Scratch Users,
I'm done with scratch, or at least making projects. I have made one last big game, thats both fun and teaches a lesson about water. It'd mean a lot if you gave me feedback.                              http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/bosox397/569201

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#15 2009-01-27 16:37:05

techy
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

demosthenes wrote:

techy wrote:

I would like it so people cant remix their own project and a project has maybe a max amount of remixes...

But then if I wanted to work on my own game I would always have to share it under the same name, what if I wanted my project to have a new look because I made so many changes, then what?

well I mean you can remix it.. but it doesnt say it is a remix


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#16 2009-01-27 16:43:14

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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

techy wrote:

demosthenes wrote:

techy wrote:

I would like it so people cant remix their own project and a project has maybe a max amount of remixes...

But then if I wanted to work on my own game I would always have to share it under the same name, what if I wanted my project to have a new look because I made so many changes, then what?

well I mean you can remix it.. but it doesnt say it is a remix

Yeah, andresmh has suggested to use the number of people who remixed as a count instead of remixes.

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#17 2009-01-27 16:43:51

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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

bosox397 wrote:

just how about u can't remix ur own project more than 10 times?

What if you really need to remix your project more than ten times? I think Techy's idea

techy wrote:

well I mean you can remix it.. but it doesnt say it is a remix

has more potential.


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#18 2009-01-27 17:10:33

Magnie
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

I Don't Get The Point About Remixing o front page. Some People Cheat To Get Front Page I Don't Even Do that and some people just do it to spam the front page i say delete Remixing.
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Last edited by Magnie (2009-01-27 17:11:38)

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#19 2009-01-27 17:24:43

Lanie
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

Magnie wrote:

I Don't Get The Point About Remixing o front page. Some People Cheat To Get Front Page I Don't Even Do that and some people just do it to spam the front page i say delete Remixing.
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Yes there are people that abuse the remixing privilege, I think the Scratch team is working on how they can fix that problem with people remixing themselves

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#20 2009-01-27 17:41:43

Lanie
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

Maybe you could think of some other things you would like to replace remix with like for instance Top Favored. Some might think top loved is the same but its not, favored could be useful projects like tutorials. When i say useful i mean come in handy when in need not meaning they are useless

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#21 2009-01-27 17:45:48

techy
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

maybe you could make a blog for this or use mine : http://scratchrsspeakout.blogspot.com/


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#22 2009-01-27 17:52:22

Lanie
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

Well I am actually developing a tribute site to scratch. I could use some ideas. For some reason my parents dont like me to use a blog

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#23 2009-01-27 17:56:49

techy
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

Lanie wrote:

Well I am actually developing a tribute site to scratch. I could use some ideas. For some reason my parents dont like me to use a blog

ok... you could use http://www.weebly.com for a website builder... I cant do anyhting that you have to pay for because my parents also wont let me lol


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#24 2009-01-27 18:04:04

Lanie
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

The site is called ScratchR's Give Back i will send a link when done

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#25 2009-01-27 19:01:58

Paddle2See
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Re: ScratchR's Speak Out *Participate Please*

Generally, I am in favor of remixing...as long as credit is given, either automatically or manually in the Project Notes.  However, I have seen cases where people have abused the remixing feature by making insulting projects or have failed to give credit (and have actively worked to defeat the automatic credit).  Therefore, I am favoring a plan where you can deny those people the privilege of remixing your work by adding them to your Ignore list.  So, in addition to not being able to comment on your projects, Ignored people would not be able to download your projects.  Let me know what you think of this idea.

As for the Remix section of the Front Page...repairs are being made.

Great idea for a forum topic, by the way!


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