transparent wrote:
mythbusteranimator wrote:
Sooorry
They seriously are one of the most influential rock bands
The BBC has described The Smiths as "the band that inspired deeper devotion than any British group since The Beatles". Simon Goddard argued in 2007 that as "the one truly vital voice of the '80s, The Smiths were the most influential British guitar group of the decade."
Really
I'm preeetttyy sure Queen had a slightly bigger influence
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NeilWest wrote:
The xx are really good. I vote for them and The White Stripes.
I thought XX made dubstep. Hmm...
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mythbusteranimator wrote:
transparent wrote:
mythbusteranimator wrote:
Sooorry
They seriously are one of the most influential rock bands
The BBC has described The Smiths as "the band that inspired deeper devotion than any British group since The Beatles". Simon Goddard argued in 2007 that as "the one truly vital voice of the '80s, The Smiths were the most influential British guitar group of the decade."Really
I'm preeetttyy sure Queen had a slightly bigger influence
Well I did say 'one of the best', though it seems others think otherwise
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I'd think of Queen as more '70s anyway and they didn't necessarily have that much influence (especially compared to the Smiths, without which there would be much less of a unified "alternative rock" and "indie rock" concept.
Who are some bands with strong Queen influences?
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LeDerpy123 wrote:
NeilWest wrote:
The xx are really good. I vote for them and The White Stripes.
I thought XX made dubstep. Hmm...
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i'll assume by best you mean most influental
this isn't in any particular order but
-led zeppelin
-ac/dc
-the * pistols
-queen
i think i'm missing someone obvious
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RedRocker227 wrote:
i'll assume by best you mean most influental
this isn't in any particular order but
-led zeppelin
-ac/dc
-the * pistols
-queen
i think i'm missing someone obvious
Los Beatles?
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I think I'll go with the Rolling Stones. They're my favorite band that I would just call "rock" and not worry about semantics. I like The Who very much too but not really in their more rocky days. Also I don't know who voted for Pendulum but they're not rock
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While the Beatles might not have been the greatest of all time, they were certainly the most influential, completely altering the general perspective of pop and rock music, so I'd vote for them.
Also (not a list of favorites, but ones that I think stretched the boundaries of rock or pop):
Queen
Pink Floyd
Blur
Radiohead
The Smiths (no worries, transparent, I'm with you here)
The Stone Roses
Metallica
Judas Priest
Pearl Jam
Nirvana
Genesis
King Crimson
Sonic Youth
Oasis (okay, I know they're not the greatest Britpop band, but they certainly popularized it, and they have made many classic tunes, so I'm voting for them anyway)
Black Sabbath
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veggieman001 wrote:
I'd think of Queen as more '70s anyway and they didn't necessarily have that much influence (especially compared to the Smiths, without which there would be much less of a unified "alternative rock" and "indie rock" concept.
Who are some bands with strong Queen influences?
Their golden years were the 80s, but it was their 70s songs that got them famous.
There are a ton of bands that were inspired, particularly because of their huge range of music (metal, ballads, pop, etc.)
Here are what I can find:
-Anthrax
-Metallica
-Dream Theater
-Van Halen
-Lady Gaga
-Katy Perry
-Iron Maiden
-Guns and Roses
-Green Day
These bands have all mentioned Queen as a large influence at one time or another.
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mythbusteranimator wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
I'd think of Queen as more '70s anyway and they didn't necessarily have that much influence (especially compared to the Smiths, without which there would be much less of a unified "alternative rock" and "indie rock" concept.
Who are some bands with strong Queen influences?Their golden years were the 80s, but it was their 70s songs that got them famous.
Actually, I always thought it was the other way around. I always thought the 70's was their golden age (Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, A Night at the Opera, A Day at the Races), and the 80's material was what got them famous ("Under Pressure", "Radio Ga Ga", "I Want to Break Free", "One Vision", etc.).
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All4one wrote:
mythbusteranimator wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
I'd think of Queen as more '70s anyway and they didn't necessarily have that much influence (especially compared to the Smiths, without which there would be much less of a unified "alternative rock" and "indie rock" concept.
Who are some bands with strong Queen influences?Their golden years were the 80s, but it was their 70s songs that got them famous.
Actually, I always thought it was the other way around. I always thought the 70's was their golden age (Queen II, Sheer Heart Attack, A Night at the Opera, A Day at the Races), and the 80's material was what got them famous ("Under Pressure", "Radio Ga Ga", "I Want to Break Free", "One Vision", etc.).
I thought "Bohemian Rhapsody", "Killer Queen", "We Will Rock You", "We Are the Champions", etc. got them famous.
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NeilWest wrote:
The Beatles is rock? Now I've heard everything.
Where have YOU been?
In their earlier stuff (Love Me Do and such) they were rock and roll but their studio stuff is mostly rock, though it goes over several genres.
And veggie is correct about Queen, I would say. "Bohemian Rhapsody", "We Will Rock You", and "We Are the Champions" are the songs people (er, kids at my school) will recognize if I put it on. "Under Pressure" is what they will start rapping to at first before the lyrics come in.
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soupoftomato wrote:
NeilWest wrote:
The Beatles is rock? Now I've heard everything.
Where have YOU been?
In their earlier stuff (Love Me Do and such) they were rock and roll but their studio stuff is mostly rock, though it goes over several genres.
/implying rock and roll and rock are different
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veggieman001 wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
NeilWest wrote:
The Beatles is rock? Now I've heard everything.
Where have YOU been?
In their earlier stuff (Love Me Do and such) they were rock and roll but their studio stuff is mostly rock, though it goes over several genres./implying rock and roll and rock are different
I asked my dad one day and he said that "rock and roll" is generally simpler stuff (Love Me Do, I Wanna Hold Your Hand) while "rock" is going to be more complex things (im afraid ill be laughed at for getting the examples in this section wrong).
So it would flow like blues->rock and roll->rock->variations
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soupoftomato wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
Where have YOU been?
In their earlier stuff (Love Me Do and such) they were rock and roll but their studio stuff is mostly rock, though it goes over several genres./implying rock and roll and rock are different
I asked my dad one day and he said that "rock and roll" is generally simpler stuff (Love Me Do, I Wanna Hold Your Hand) while "rock" is going to be more complex things (im afraid ill be laughed at for getting the examples in this section wrong).
So it would flow like blues->rock and roll->rock->variations
I think rock and roll just generally refers to blues/R&B-based rock music, or early rock, if you like.
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All4one wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
/implying rock and roll and rock are differentI asked my dad one day and he said that "rock and roll" is generally simpler stuff (Love Me Do, I Wanna Hold Your Hand) while "rock" is going to be more complex things (im afraid ill be laughed at for getting the examples in this section wrong).
So it would flow like blues->rock and roll->rock->variationsI think rock and roll just generally refers to blues/R&B-based rock music, or early rock, if you like.
Rock & Roll sounds cooler though. Rock seems to have a broader definition, of mainly 4/4 time music with drums, but even that doesn't apply to all Rock.
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All4one wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
/implying rock and roll and rock are differentI asked my dad one day and he said that "rock and roll" is generally simpler stuff (Love Me Do, I Wanna Hold Your Hand) while "rock" is going to be more complex things (im afraid ill be laughed at for getting the examples in this section wrong).
So it would flow like blues->rock and roll->rock->variationsI think rock and roll just generally refers to blues/R&B-based rock music, or early rock, if you like.
Yeah, generally.
More poppy I suppose. Wikipedia doesn't actually list "Love Me Do" as rock (and roll) - it calls it "Pop, R&B" but I would say you can call it rock (and roll).
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jji7skyline wrote:
All4one wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
I asked my dad one day and he said that "rock and roll" is generally simpler stuff (Love Me Do, I Wanna Hold Your Hand) while "rock" is going to be more complex things (im afraid ill be laughed at for getting the examples in this section wrong).
So it would flow like blues->rock and roll->rock->variationsI think rock and roll just generally refers to blues/R&B-based rock music, or early rock, if you like.
Rock & Roll sounds cooler though. Rock seems to have a broader definition, of mainly 4/4 time music with drums, but even that doesn't apply to all Rock.
Rock & roll sounds more like 50s-60s poppy stuff but it's definitely not an official term.
And most music is in 4/4 and lots of rock music doesn't have drums so I don't think either of those are qualifiers.
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Led Zepplin
XTC
The Who
Queen
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veggieman001 wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:
All4one wrote:
I think rock and roll just generally refers to blues/R&B-based rock music, or early rock, if you like.Rock & Roll sounds cooler though. Rock seems to have a broader definition, of mainly 4/4 time music with drums, but even that doesn't apply to all Rock.
Rock & roll sounds more like 50s-60s poppy stuff but it's definitely not an official term.
And most music is in 4/4 and lots of rock music doesn't have drums so I don't think either of those are qualifiers.
Rock&Roll is more 3 chord stuff also.
R&R is different from blues.
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jji7skyline wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
jji7skyline wrote:
Rock & Roll sounds cooler though. Rock seems to have a broader definition, of mainly 4/4 time music with drums, but even that doesn't apply to all Rock.Rock & roll sounds more like 50s-60s poppy stuff but it's definitely not an official term.
And most music is in 4/4 and lots of rock music doesn't have drums so I don't think either of those are qualifiers.Rock&Roll is more 3 chord stuff also.
R&R is different from blues.
When someone says "three chord", I think of punk.
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->Pink Floyd
->The Beatles
->Radiohead
->The Yardbirds
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