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#1 2013-02-13 20:23:25

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Nursery Rhymes' TRUE meaning. click HERE.

WARNING: IF YOU ARE EASILY SCARED, DO NOT READ !!! DO NOT READ!!! SIMPLY GO TO ANOTHER FORUM!!! DO NOT READ!!!

Okay most of us knew about nursery rhymes. We thought they were so innocent. But as we get older some of us found out what message was trying to get across. Take "Ring Around The Rosie" for example...It was based off the Bubonic Plauge in the Middle Ages...

Ring around the rosies
Pocket full of posies
Ashes, ashes,
We all fall down

Now read the color-coded meaning

If you were infected, you had a red ring on your skin around he "rosies" (boils, I suppose?)
The posies covered the scent of dead bodies
They burned the dead bodies, as there was no more room to bury them
Most people died in that era due to the plauge

Anyone have the meaning to other nursery rhymes? I'll also accept stories such as "Little Red Riding Hood" if theres some sort of creepy message I missed in there. (it would be prefered if you put the meaning of the lyrics)


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#2 2013-02-13 20:25:42

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According to listverse, the original version was:

Ring a ring a roses,

A pocket full of posies

One, two, three, four,

We all fall down down



And it really was meant to be a nice little rhyme!

DO NOT READ SLEEPING BEAUTY IN IT'S ORIGINAL FORM. I HAVE A BROTHERS GRIMM ORIGINAL STORIES BOOK AND I AM NEVER READING THAT ONE.

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#3 2013-02-13 20:27:56

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all nursery rhymes and fairy tales are actually really dark
kids getting baked in the oven
a wolf eating pigs
a wolf eating a grandma and getting cut open with an axe
murderous giants
etc.


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#4 2013-02-13 20:34:35

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ImagineIt wrote:

DO NOT READ SLEEPING BEAUTY IN IT'S ORIGINAL FORM. I HAVE A BROTHERS GRIMM ORIGINAL STORIES BOOK AND I AM NEVER READING THAT ONE.

What happens?


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#5 2013-02-13 20:38:46

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haxcharsol wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

DO NOT READ SLEEPING BEAUTY IN IT'S ORIGINAL FORM. I HAVE A BROTHERS GRIMM ORIGINAL STORIES BOOK AND I AM NEVER READING THAT ONE.

What happens?

Let's just say the stork delivers a baby.

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#6 2013-02-13 20:44:26

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Re: Nursery Rhymes' TRUE meaning. click HERE.

ImagineIt wrote:

haxcharsol wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

DO NOT READ SLEEPING BEAUTY IN IT'S ORIGINAL FORM. I HAVE A BROTHERS GRIMM ORIGINAL STORIES BOOK AND I AM NEVER READING THAT ONE.

What happens?

Let's just say the stork delivers a baby.

0_0 At first I thought you were telling me not to read due to gorey content or something, but thats creepier than what I imagined.


How long has it been? Didja read this yet? Good. Now, get back to work... and you might want to duct-tape your mind back together,... its kinda been blown. 7HE P0WER 0F 1V1$1BLE 7EX7!!! (@c7u@lly, 1t$ g@1n$b0r0.)

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#7 2013-02-13 20:48:38

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koilmasta wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

haxcharsol wrote:


What happens?

Let's just say the stork delivers a baby.

0_0 At first I thought you were telling me not to read due to gorey content or something, but thats creepier than what I imagined.

That's what I thought too...
0_o


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#8 2013-02-13 20:50:32

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Jack and Jill:
Jack and Jill went up the hill/To fetch a pail of water/Jack fell down and broke his crown/And Jill came tumbling after

Why are they going up a hill to get water, which travels downhill?  Considering the time period, this could easily refer to the beheading of Louis XVI, with his crown being both the head and the throne, and his queen, Ms. Antoinette, who died in the same fashion.


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#9 2013-02-13 21:16:00

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Re: Nursery Rhymes' TRUE meaning. click HERE.

koilmasta wrote:

WARNING: IF YOU ARE EASILY SCARED, DO NOT READ !!! DO NOT READ!!! SIMPLY GO TO ANOTHER FORUM!!! DO NOT READ!!!

Okay most of us knew about nursery rhymes. We thought they were so innocent. But as we get older some of us found out what message was trying to get across. Take "Ring Around The Rosie" for example...It was based off the Bubonic Plauge in the Middle Ages...

Ring around the rosies
Pocket full of posies
Ashes, ashes,
We all fall down

Now read the color-coded meaning

If you were infected, you had a red ring on your skin around he "rosies" (boils, I suppose?)
The posies covered the scent of dead bodies
They burned the dead bodies, as there was no more room to bury them
Most people died in that era due to the plauge

Anyone have the meaning to other nursery rhymes? I'll also accept stories such as "Little Red Riding Hood" if theres some sort of creepy message I missed in there. (it would be prefered if you put the meaning of the lyrics)

I knew that from the day I was 6. :3


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#10 2013-02-14 03:58:56

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im pretty sure that's been proven as an urban legend/rumour


cause a bird and a fish could fall in love/but where would they live?

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#11 2013-02-14 04:02:17

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koilmasta wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

haxcharsol wrote:

What happens?

Let's just say the stork delivers a baby.

0_0 At first I thought you were telling me not to read due to gorey content or something, but thats creepier than what I imagined.

babies

Programmer_112 wrote:

Jack and Jill:
Jack and Jill went up the hill/To fetch a pail of water/Jack fell down and broke his crown/And Jill came tumbling after

Why are they going up a hill to get water, which travels downhill?  Considering the time period, this could easily refer to the beheading of Louis XVI, with his crown being both the head and the throne, and his queen, Ms. Antoinette, who died in the same fashion.

http://theghostwriter.hubpages.com/hub/Meanings-of-Jack-and-Jill
though personally i dont see it too much of a hassle that there was a well up there/the water travelled the other way and it was easier to go up than around


cause a bird and a fish could fall in love/but where would they live?

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#12 2013-02-14 18:03:08

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actually, the "ring around the rosie" thing is an urban legend and has been thouroughly debunked by the good people at snopes.com. you should be ashamed for spreading lies.


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#13 2013-02-14 18:11:31

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ImagineIt wrote:

DO NOT READ SLEEPING BEAUTY IN IT'S ORIGINAL FORM. I HAVE A BROTHERS GRIMM ORIGINAL STORIES BOOK AND I AM NEVER READING THAT ONE.

You were probably reading Sun, Moon, and Talia, that one's pretty mature. Brier-Rose is a lot better (though the whole cannibalism theme is still there).

(also it was two babies)

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#14 2013-02-14 18:17:54

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luiysia wrote:

actually, the "ring around the rosie" thing is an urban legend and has been thouroughly debunked by the good people at snopes.com. you should be ashamed for spreading lies.

Really?
My teacher tells me otherwise.


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#15 2013-02-14 18:52:45

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Dude I've known this stuff since I was six.


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#16 2013-02-14 19:02:55

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Re: Nursery Rhymes' TRUE meaning. click HERE.

haxcharsol wrote:

luiysia wrote:

actually, the "ring around the rosie" thing is an urban legend and has been thouroughly debunked by the good people at snopes.com. you should be ashamed for spreading lies.

Really?
My teacher tells me otherwise.

My teacher told me we evolved from apes. I've learned we had a common ancestor.

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#17 2013-02-14 19:08:50

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haxcharsol wrote:

luiysia wrote:

actually, the "ring around the rosie" thing is an urban legend and has been thouroughly debunked by the good people at snopes.com. you should be ashamed for spreading lies.

Really?
My teacher tells me otherwise.

Because a single teacher is a far more trustworthy source than a website devoted to verifying the veracity of urban myths, for which many people work for.

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#18 2013-02-14 19:42:47

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I found a website...Well here's part of what it says 0.o -

The origin of the words to the Three blind mice rhyme are based in English history. The 'farmer's wife' refers to the daughter of King Henry VIII, Queen Mary I. Mary was a staunch Catholic and her violent persecution of Protestants led to the nickname of 'Bloody Mary'. The reference to 'farmer's wife' in Three blind mice refers to the massive estates which she, and her husband King Philip of Spain, possessed.

The 'three blind mice' were three noblemen who adhered to the Protestant faith who were convicted of plotting against the Queen - she did not have them dismembered and blinded as inferred in Three blind mice.


Three blind mice, three blind mice,
See how they run, see how they run,
They all ran after the farmer's wife,
Who cut off their tails with a carving knife,
Did you ever see such a thing in your life,
As three blind mice?

Even if you don't know the origin, it's still a scary rhyme...

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#19 2013-02-14 21:12:27

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ImagineIt wrote:

DO NOT READ SLEEPING BEAUTY IN IT'S ORIGINAL FORM. I HAVE A BROTHERS GRIMM ORIGINAL STORIES BOOK AND I AM NEVER READING THAT ONE.

Is it online?
Saying "don't do x" makes people want to do x.


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#20 2013-02-14 21:15:09

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Yeah, they're all online.
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~spok/grimmtmp/
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/perrault.html (this one has some other stuff as well as a few of the same tales that are slightly different)


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#21 2013-02-14 21:18:31

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zubblewu wrote:

all nursery rhymes and fairy tales are actually really dark
kids getting baked in the oven
a wolf eating pigs
a wolf eating a grandma and getting cut open with an axe
murderous giants
etc.

in the grimm's fairy tales version of cinderella, her sisters cut off the sides/heels of their feet to fit into the shoe and a bird notices and sings this little ditty:

turn and peep, turn and peep,
     there's blood within the shoe,
     the shoe it is too small for her,
     the true bride waits for you.

and let's not forget their punishment

When the betrothed couple went to church, the elder was at the right side and the younger at the left, and the pigeons pecked out one eye from each of them.  Afterwards as they came back the elder was at the left, and the younger at the right, and then the pigeons pecked out the other eye from each.


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#22 2013-02-14 21:27:38

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Firedrake969 wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

DO NOT READ SLEEPING BEAUTY IN IT'S ORIGINAL FORM. I HAVE A BROTHERS GRIMM ORIGINAL STORIES BOOK AND I AM NEVER READING THAT ONE.

Is it online?
Saying "don't do x" makes people want to do x.

Ok. I warned you then. I don't know if it's online. Probably.

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#23 2013-02-14 21:30:34

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luiysia wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

DO NOT READ SLEEPING BEAUTY IN IT'S ORIGINAL FORM. I HAVE A BROTHERS GRIMM ORIGINAL STORIES BOOK AND I AM NEVER READING THAT ONE.

You were probably reading Sun, Moon, and Talia, that one's pretty mature. Brier-Rose is a lot better (though the whole cannibalism theme is still there).

(also it was two babies)

What's Sun, Moon and Talia? I'm talking about the original one.

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#24 2013-02-14 22:52:30

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luiysia wrote:

Yeah, they're all online.
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~spok/grimmtmp/
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/perrault.html (this one has some other stuff as well as a few of the same tales that are slightly different)

For the first link, what's the title? Is it just Sleeping Beauty? Or is it something else? 'Cause I couldn't find it...


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#25 2013-02-14 23:05:37

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I just learned about the truth about Ring Around The Rosies a couple days ago. That is the most disturbing game in the universe...


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