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#1 2013-01-27 11:00:42

taddl
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Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

This suggestion is already planned for Scratch 2.0

OK, so first of all: I really like the new vector graphics in scratch 2.0, but I don't want to use it ALL the time.
Sometimes, people might like Pixelgraphics more than Vector graphics.
For example:
-A 2d Minecraft game
-An 8-bit game like super mario
And I know, you can import pixelgraphics into Scratch 2.0, using an external paint program, and importing the picture.
So I came up with this idea:
Why can't we have BOTH?
I though it would be great, if there was a "Switch to (pixel/vector) graphic" button.

Here's a mockup:
http://i46.tinypic.com/9zzvq.png
using the vector graphics, you could change every line after you drew it, and using the pixelgaphics, it would work just as it works in scratch 1.4.

I also realized, that it is very hard, to make a square, wich has a circle-shaped hole in it in Scratch 2.0.
With this feature, it would be a lot easier.

Please support!

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#2 2013-01-27 11:10:34

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

Good idea! It's almost impossible to edit 1.4 art with the new art editor. The best solution is probably to use 1.4 for your art when you need pixel art.

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#3 2013-01-27 11:26:54

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

Thank you!
Yes, that is currently the best way, but wih this feature, it would be a lot easier.
big_smile

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#4 2013-01-27 11:32:24

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

Definitely support...  smile

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#5 2013-01-27 12:06:03

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

yes, support.

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#6 2013-01-27 12:27:21

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

Thank you!

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#7 2013-01-27 12:28:20

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

Support!

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#8 2013-01-27 12:40:12

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

What is vector graphics?

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#9 2013-01-27 12:45:54

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

berberberber wrote:

What is vector graphics?

Vector graphics are graphics made out of squares, lines, etc.
more info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_graphics

This type of graphics are used in scratch 2.0, but you can't use pixelgraphics, wich are the graphics used in Scratch 1.4. That's why I made this suggestion.

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#10 2013-01-27 12:47:58

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

Still don't get it...  hmm 

Also, they should inprove the resolution.

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#11 2013-01-27 13:02:50

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

Let me explain it:
There is a line.
As a pixel graphic, each pixels color is saved.
It looks a bit like this:
white,white,white,black,black,white,...
As a vector graphic, the first, and the last dot are saved, like this:
first dot:(X:0,Y:0)
last dot:(X:100,Y:0)
Vector graphics allow you to zoom infinitely, because the computer calculates where every pixel is, every time you move something.

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#12 2013-01-27 13:15:09

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

You can just import things made in other programs, but this would be cool...

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#13 2013-01-27 13:17:14

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

Mokat wrote:

You can just import things made in other programs, but this would be cool...

I know, but this would be a lot easier, and not that hard to implement!

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#14 2013-01-27 13:24:01

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

Yeah, support!  Also, scratch needs better pixel resolution.  Also, with vector, how would you fill things in?

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#15 2013-01-27 13:29:51

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

berberberber wrote:

Yeah, support!  Also, scratch needs better pixel resolution.  Also, with vector, how would you fill things in?

like this:  hmm
http://i50.tinypic.com/6nwcr4.png

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#16 2013-01-28 09:38:41

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

Support

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#17 2013-01-28 14:10:41

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

While I don't know whether it's easy to make a raster graphics editor in Flash, I support.

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#18 2013-01-28 17:19:32

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

technoguyx wrote:

While I don't know whether it's easy to make a raster graphics editor in Flash, I support.

I think its pausible, because you can already import pixelgraphics, you just can't draw them.

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#19 2013-01-29 15:58:21

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

Very worthwhile...  smile
Just bring the old bitmap editor from 1.4 into 2.0, and it's be wonderful...  smile

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#20 2013-01-29 17:13:51

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

OverPowered wrote:

Very worthwhile...  smile
Just bring the old bitmap editor from 1.4 into 2.0, and it's be wonderful...  smile

Does that count as a support?  big_smile

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#21 2013-01-29 18:56:40

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

I think I'll continue doing what I always do...

Use Paint.NET to do my graphics editing.  Then, import into Scratch.

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#22 2013-02-01 12:22:58

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

support!

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#23 2013-02-01 12:23:32

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

thanks!

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#24 2013-02-04 15:05:13

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

definitely support!

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#25 2013-02-05 00:55:04

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Re: Vector AND pixel graphics in the new Scratch 2.0 paint editor

Yessssssss.

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