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sanddude wrote:

A series of common album comparisons. State which one you prefer and justify it if you want.

1. The Beatles: Revolver vs Abbey Road
Revolver
2. Sigur Ros: Agaetis byrjun vs ()
Ágætis byrjun
3. Godspeed You Black Emperor: F#A#infinity vs Lift Yr. Skinny Fists Like Antenas to Heaven
Both ^o^
6. Tool: Aenima vs Lateralus
Lateralus
7. Radiohead: OK Computer vs Kid A
OK Computer
9. Aphex Twin: Selected Ambient Works '85-93 vs The RDJ Album
RDJ
11. Led Zeppelin: Led Zeppelin II vs Led Zeppelin IV
IV
12. Nirvana: Nevermind vs In Utero
In Utero
13. Weezer: Weezer (Blue Album) vs Pinkerton
Pinkerton
14. Pixies: Surfer Rosa vs Doolittle
Doolittle
15. Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon vs Wish You Were Here
WYWH
18. Nine Inch Nails: The Downward Spiral vs The Fragile
The Fragile
20. Modest Mouse: The Lonesome Crowded West vs The Moon and Antarctica
The Moon & Antarctica

Haven't heard all of the albums so the only one i can really weigh in on is Pink Floyd
Wish you were Here is the better of the two!

1. Abbey Road
11. Led Zeppelin IV
12. Bleach
15. Dark Side of the Moon
16. Highway '64 Revisted

All others = I don't like that band
Also PF was a really hard decision

veggieman001 wrote:

Bleach? Really?

Yeah you got a problem with that >:|

veggieman001 wrote:

btw how can you not like GY!BE??

becos I don't listen to post-rock (same reason I don't like Sigur Ros)
sorry I don't listen to the same exact music as yours
(you should know, you're friends with me on last.fm)

Last edited by Aidan (2012-12-15 22:12:07)

Aidan wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

btw how can you not like GY!BE??

becos I don't listen to post-rock (same reason I don't like Sigur Ros)
sorry I don't listen to the same exact music as yours
(you should know, you're friends with me on last.fm)

I know you don't, and I don't have a problem with it, but it just seems a bit weird to me.
To me, it's similar to classical music in the way that the pieces are done (and the fact that they're pieces rather than songs) and seem almost like a progression from prog rock (which I know you listen to). Also, I'd consider GY!BE and Sigur Rós to be on separate sides of the post-rock spectrum. Post-rock isn't even really fair as a term because the music within it is so diverse.

veggieman001 wrote:

Aidan wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

btw how can you not like GY!BE??

becos I don't listen to post-rock (same reason I don't like Sigur Ros)
sorry I don't listen to the same exact music as yours
(you should know, you're friends with me on last.fm)

I know you don't, and I don't have a problem with it, but it just seems a bit weird to me.
To me, it's similar to classical music in the way that the pieces are done (and the fact that they're pieces rather than songs) and seem almost like a progression from prog rock (which I know you listen to). Also, I'd consider GY!BE and Sigur Rós to be on separate sides of the post-rock spectrum. Post-rock isn't even really fair as a term because the music within it is so diverse.

whatever, I tried listening to Lift Yr. Skinny Fists and Agaetis Byrjun and I didn't like either of them

That's Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!
and I loved it, I listened to it while studying.

Sigur Rós put something out this year?
Oh, was it Valtari?

sanddude wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Bleach? Really?
btw how can you not like GY!BE??

I can understand Nevermind or In Utero, but Bleach is clearly the lesser of the three. That's like saying Godfather Part III's better than the first two.

I can understand not liking GY!BE, because while I love them, I can see that they could be a bit too long and overblown for some tastes. However, I can't even being to fathom disliking Sigur Ros (although that could be biased since they're my prefered group).

BTW, I chose Downward over Fragile because I prefer the concept and I love the music. It really is one of my favorite albums of all time. Fragile's excellent, but overstays its welcome slightly (as many double albums do). We've already argued to the death about my choice of Blue Album over Pinkerton so it's really useless at this point.

Oh, and what did you think of Allelujah! Don't Bend, Ascend?

@NIN
I prefer The Fragile more because it's less aggressive, more complex musically and lyrically (with some of the musical motifs keeping the entire thing cohesive), and just generally has better songs IMO. It's got a huge variety of musical styles (compare "Star... Inc." vs. "The Frail"), a wonderful atmosphere, and flows better. Individual standouts I like to listen to separately as well include "The Day the World Went Away", "We're in This Together", the title track, "No, You Don't", "La Mer", "Into the Void", and "I'm Looking Forward to Joining You, Finally" (as you may be able to tell, I prefer the first disc).
Additionally, I relate more to its concept and find it more appealing to listen to and having more emotion than TDS.
The exception from TDS is "Hurt".
(Note: I really dislike "Star... Inc." and don't feel like it fits the rest of the album at all)

@Weezer
Yep, I've already accepted the fact that you have the right to be wrong. 
Interestingly, I may have my preference of this album for some of the same reasons as The Fragile.

@'Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!
I have not yet heard the album. I have the chance to listen to it over Spotify, but I'm not going to; I'm choosing to wait until I get the album on vinyl, hopefully for Christmas (but I'll buy it myself if I don't).
Why?
I believe vinyl is truly the only way at least I can listen to GY!BE. An obvious exception is made for the CD version of F♯ A♯ ∞, which I listen to as well as the vinyl version.
It'd be fun to see which version of F♯ A♯ ∞ people prefer, but I think most people have only heard the CD version.




And as for album of the year? Why, probably this.

Last edited by veggieman001 (2012-12-15 23:27:16)

veggieman001 wrote:

sanddude wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Bleach? Really?
btw how can you not like GY!BE??

I can understand Nevermind or In Utero, but Bleach is clearly the lesser of the three. That's like saying Godfather Part III's better than the first two.

I can understand not liking GY!BE, because while I love them, I can see that they could be a bit too long and overblown for some tastes. However, I can't even being to fathom disliking Sigur Ros (although that could be biased since they're my prefered group).

BTW, I chose Downward over Fragile because I prefer the concept and I love the music. It really is one of my favorite albums of all time. Fragile's excellent, but overstays its welcome slightly (as many double albums do). We've already argued to the death about my choice of Blue Album over Pinkerton so it's really useless at this point.

Oh, and what did you think of Allelujah! Don't Bend, Ascend?

@NIN
I prefer The Fragile more because it's less aggressive, more complex musically and lyrically (with some of the musical motifs keeping the entire thing cohesive), and just generally has better songs IMO. It's got a huge variety of musical styles (compare "Star... Inc." vs. "The Frail"), a wonderful atmosphere, and flows better. Individual standouts I like to listen to separately as well include "The Day the World Went Away", "We're in This Together", the title track, "No, You Don't", "La Mer", "Into the Void", and "I'm Looking Forward to Joining You, Finally" (as you may be able to tell, I prefer the first disc).
Additionally, I relate more to its concept and find it more appealing to listen to and having more emotion than TDS.
The exception from TDS is "Hurt".
(Note: I really dislike "Star... Inc." and don't feel like it fits the rest of the album at all)

@Weezer
Yep, I've already accepted the fact that you have the right to be wrong. 
Interestingly, I may have my preference of this album for some of the same reasons as The Fragile.

@'Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!
I have not yet heard the album. I have the chance to listen to it over Spotify, but I'm not going to; I'm choosing to wait until I get the album on vinyl, hopefully for Christmas (but I'll buy it myself if I don't).
Why?
I believe vinyl is truly the only way at least I can listen to GY!BE. An obvious exception is made for the CD version of F♯ A♯ ∞, which I listen to as well as the vinyl version.
It'd be fun to see which version of F♯ A♯ ∞ people prefer, but I think most people have only heard the CD version.

I prefer the heavier sound of Downward. I think the synthy sound of The Fragile sounds a bit obnoxious to me. I also find Downward more consistant, and unlike you I prefer the themes on Downward.

I honestly don't bother with vinyl. I understand why people prefer it, and the quality benefits, it's just that CD's are more convenient.

@dontbombiraq: 15 favorite bands would be: Radiohead, Sigur Ros, The Beatles, Massive Attack, The Clash, At the Drive-In, Nirvana, Slayer, ...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead, Pixies, Death Cab for Cutie, Opeth, Wu-Tang Clan,  Minor Threat, and Ramones.

veggieman001 wrote:

Meh, The Fragile doesn't seem that synthy to me. But whatever.
It's also sort of hard to separate them, because Reznor said that they kind of go together as one large story; it descends downward, goes up to about the middle of TF, and then goes back down again. It's interesting.
And yeah I guess the heaviness is probably part of it; I don't like heavy music that much.

And I'm not so concerned with the quality; it's more that it's a different listening experience. It's a bit hard to explain. There's only some bands where it's like "YES I NEED TO LISTEN TO THAT ON VINYL" and GY!BE happens to be one of them for me (still excepting the aforementioned CD which has different music than the vinyl).

(don't get me started on cassettes... that's another different listening experience reserved for some '80s bands like the Cure and their album Pornography)

I despise cassettes myself.

I think the only one I'm really qualified on is Radiohead;
OK Computer is better than Kid A, but personally I prefer The Bends.