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#51 2012-11-19 20:19:42

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

I dunno bout you, but I wouldn't really like to lug around a 2 kilo brick.

And let me tell you that Android is definitely not as stable as, say, OSX or iOS.


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#52 2012-11-19 20:41:46

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

jji7skyline wrote:

I dunno bout you, but I wouldn't really like to lug around a 2 kilo brick.

And let me tell you that Android is definitely not as stable as, say, OSX or iOS.

I wouldn't actually mind that much. As long as it doesn't weigh as much as an elephant, I'm happy.

As for the stability, I haven't ever seen an android device crash, and I have been around a lot of them. In fact, I am on one right now.

Motorola Backflip.
528Mhz device from 2010.
Overclocked (to 768Mhz), rooted, running CyanogenMod7.
Runs like a dream, never has crashed. (It is a little slow, but that isn't android's fault)


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#53 2012-11-19 20:48:26

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I dunno bout you, but I wouldn't really like to lug around a 2 kilo brick.

And let me tell you that Android is definitely not as stable as, say, OSX or iOS.

I wouldn't actually mind that much. As long as it doesn't weigh as much as an elephant, I'm happy.

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#54 2012-11-19 20:59:54

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

I'd say ipad 4 if I could get either for free.


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#55 2012-11-19 21:16:59

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I dunno bout you, but I wouldn't really like to lug around a 2 kilo brick.

And let me tell you that Android is definitely not as stable as, say, OSX or iOS.

I wouldn't actually mind that much. As long as it doesn't weigh as much as an elephant, I'm happy.

As for the stability, I haven't ever seen an android device crash, and I have been around a lot of them. In fact, I am on one right now.

Motorola Backflip.
528Mhz device from 2010.
Overclocked (to 768Mhz), rooted, running CyanogenMod7.
Runs like a dream, never has crashed. (It is a little slow, but that isn't android's fault)

I also run a custom ROM. It never completely crashes as a Windows computer would, but I'm constantly having my browser force close itself just to give you one example.


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#56 2012-11-19 21:29:21

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

jji7skyline wrote:

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

I dunno bout you, but I wouldn't really like to lug around a 2 kilo brick.

And let me tell you that Android is definitely not as stable as, say, OSX or iOS.

I wouldn't actually mind that much. As long as it doesn't weigh as much as an elephant, I'm happy.

As for the stability, I haven't ever seen an android device crash, and I have been around a lot of them. In fact, I am on one right now.

Motorola Backflip.
528Mhz device from 2010.
Overclocked (to 768Mhz), rooted, running CyanogenMod7.
Runs like a dream, never has crashed. (It is a little slow, but that isn't android's fault)

I also run a custom ROM. It never completely crashes as a Windows computer would, but I'm constantly having my browser force close itself just to give you one example.

The worst that happens on this thing is temporary lockups from apps that expect a decent device  tongue


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#57 2012-11-19 21:39:14

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

fire219 wrote:


I wouldn't actually mind that much. As long as it doesn't weigh as much as an elephant, I'm happy.

As for the stability, I haven't ever seen an android device crash, and I have been around a lot of them. In fact, I am on one right now.

Motorola Backflip.
528Mhz device from 2010.
Overclocked (to 768Mhz), rooted, running CyanogenMod7.
Runs like a dream, never has crashed. (It is a little slow, but that isn't android's fault)

I also run a custom ROM. It never completely crashes as a Windows computer would, but I'm constantly having my browser force close itself just to give you one example.

The worst that happens on this thing is temporary lockups from apps that expect a decent device  tongue

Haha. My tablet has decent specs, but not exactly trailblazing  tongue

1.2Ghz OverClocked Dual-Core SoC
512MB RAM
1024x600 resolution
Running Android 4.1
quite heavy


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#58 2012-11-19 21:45:20

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

jji7skyline wrote:

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:


I also run a custom ROM. It never completely crashes as a Windows computer would, but I'm constantly having my browser force close itself just to give you one example.

The worst that happens on this thing is temporary lockups from apps that expect a decent device  tongue

Haha. My tablet has decent specs, but not exactly trailblazing  tongue

1.2Ghz OverClocked Dual-Core SoC
512MB RAM
1024x600 resolution
Running Android 4.1
quite heavy

I got this thing for free (my grandma's old smartphone, given to me), so I really shouldn't complain. Doesn't stop me from wanting a Transformer Infinity though.  tongue


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#59 2012-11-19 22:18:46

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

fire219 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

fire219 wrote:


The worst that happens on this thing is temporary lockups from apps that expect a decent device  tongue

Haha. My tablet has decent specs, but not exactly trailblazing  tongue

1.2Ghz OverClocked Dual-Core SoC
512MB RAM
1024x600 resolution
Running Android 4.1
quite heavy

I got this thing for free (my grandma's old smartphone, given to me), so I really shouldn't complain. Doesn't stop me from wanting a Transformer Infinity though.  tongue

I know how you feel  tongue


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#60 2012-11-19 22:49:17

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

jji7skyline wrote:

I dunno bout you, but I wouldn't really like to lug around a 2 kilo brick.

And let me tell you that Android is definitely not as stable as, say, OSX or iOS.

I would take a slight drop in stability if it meant losing Apple's super-strict restrictions. All I want is: shared filesystem between apps (heck, even a shared directory with the ability to whitelist/blacklist apps), ability to sideload apps and develop on Windows, and the ability to customize button presses. (For example, have the hold home button, typically for Siri, open Chrome or iMessage) The side loading/developing on windows is the least likely out of those, but I could plausibly see Apple doing the others.


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#61 2012-11-19 22:59:46

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

You can see recent apps by double tapping the home button.

You can sideload apps using third-party tools, without jailbreaking.

Why? Macs are way more awesome and all that.


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#62 2012-11-19 23:04:03

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

Despite your personal opinions, the majority of people who own iOS devices, would want to make apps for them, and use computers in general use Windows computers and either do not want to or cannot afford to switch to a Mac. Allowing Windows users to make apps would significantly increase the amount of iOS developers, IMO.


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#63 2012-11-19 23:19:02

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

veggieman001 wrote:

Despite your personal opinions, the majority of people who own iOS devices, would want to make apps for them, and use computers in general use Windows computers and either do not want to or cannot afford to switch to a Mac. Allowing Windows users to make apps would significantly increase the amount of iOS developers, IMO.

App development is not a cheap hobby/business. Chances are, if they can afford to make a good app, they can save up for a Mac.


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#64 2012-11-19 23:26:06

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

stevetheipad wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Despite your personal opinions, the majority of people who own iOS devices, would want to make apps for them, and use computers in general use Windows computers and either do not want to or cannot afford to switch to a Mac. Allowing Windows users to make apps would significantly increase the amount of iOS developers, IMO.

App development is not a cheap hobby/business. Chances are, if they can afford to make a good app, they can save up for a Mac.

I think it's ridiculous to make people buy a Mac and then make them pay a developer's fee. I mean, it's one thing to want to make money; that I understand. It's another thing to be completely excessive and trying to squeeze as much out of people as they can, which it seems like Apple's trying to do here.


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#65 2012-11-19 23:46:24

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

stevetheipad wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Despite your personal opinions, the majority of people who own iOS devices, would want to make apps for them, and use computers in general use Windows computers and either do not want to or cannot afford to switch to a Mac. Allowing Windows users to make apps would significantly increase the amount of iOS developers, IMO.

App development is not a cheap hobby/business. Chances are, if they can afford to make a good app, they can save up for a Mac.

This is a completely idiotic statement. Anyone can get a distro of Linux, fire up Vim, compile with GCC and distribute an app on Sourceforge or even sell it without paying a cent more than what they would pay anyway (Internet and electricity). It is pathetic to make a developer pay $1000 or more for a proprietary computer, another hundred per year to get XCode, and then take away 33% of their apps profits (assuming it is a paid app). I've begun dong game development with a budget of $0, and I don't think there is much that I truly need to spend money on. Code::Blocks is open source. GIMP is open source. All the software I use to develop with (aside from windows, which I had anyway) is free as in speech, and it is entirely possible to develop applications without a budget.

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#66 2012-11-19 23:48:36

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

veggieman001 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

Despite your personal opinions, the majority of people who own iOS devices, would want to make apps for them, and use computers in general use Windows computers and either do not want to or cannot afford to switch to a Mac. Allowing Windows users to make apps would significantly increase the amount of iOS developers, IMO.

App development is not a cheap hobby/business. Chances are, if they can afford to make a good app, they can save up for a Mac.

I think it's ridiculous to make people buy a Mac and then make them pay a developer's fee. I mean, it's one thing to want to make money; that I understand. It's another thing to be completely excessive and trying to squeeze as much out of people as they can, which it seems like Apple's trying to do here.

Apple's never been known to be particularly friendly to developers, which seems fine though kinda sad but whatevs.

On the other hand Microsoft is trying to reel in as many developers as it can, by allowing use of more languages and stuff, which is just creepy :s

Btw, the Visual IDE only works on Windows, not Mac. Go figure.


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#67 2012-11-19 23:50:18

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

jji7skyline wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:


App development is not a cheap hobby/business. Chances are, if they can afford to make a good app, they can save up for a Mac.

I think it's ridiculous to make people buy a Mac and then make them pay a developer's fee. I mean, it's one thing to want to make money; that I understand. It's another thing to be completely excessive and trying to squeeze as much out of people as they can, which it seems like Apple's trying to do here.

Apple's never been known to be particularly friendly to developers, which seems fine though kinda sad but whatevs.

On the other hand Microsoft is trying to reel in as many developers as it can, by allowing use of more languages and stuff, which is just creepy :s

Btw, the Visual IDE only works on Windows, not Mac. Go figure.

Yuck, VS? It's an oversized, bloated IDE. Code::Blocks all the way. Fairly lightweight, open-source, and cross-platform.  smile


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#68 2012-11-19 23:53:16

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:


I think it's ridiculous to make people buy a Mac and then make them pay a developer's fee. I mean, it's one thing to want to make money; that I understand. It's another thing to be completely excessive and trying to squeeze as much out of people as they can, which it seems like Apple's trying to do here.

Apple's never been known to be particularly friendly to developers, which seems fine though kinda sad but whatevs.

On the other hand Microsoft is trying to reel in as many developers as it can, by allowing use of more languages and stuff, which is just creepy :s

Btw, the Visual IDE only works on Windows, not Mac. Go figure.

Yuck, VS? It's an oversized, bloated IDE. Code::Blocks all the way. Fairly lightweight, open-source, and cross-platform.  smile

It's the only way to publish apps to the Windows 8 store. ._.


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#69 2012-11-20 00:00:29

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

jji7skyline wrote:

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:


Apple's never been known to be particularly friendly to developers, which seems fine though kinda sad but whatevs.

On the other hand Microsoft is trying to reel in as many developers as it can, by allowing use of more languages and stuff, which is just creepy :s

Btw, the Visual IDE only works on Windows, not Mac. Go figure.

Yuck, VS? It's an oversized, bloated IDE. Code::Blocks all the way. Fairly lightweight, open-source, and cross-platform.  smile

It's the only way to publish apps to the Windows 8 store. ._.

Yuck, Windows 8 Store.  tongue  Really, though. If Microsoft wanted to be more like apple, they should make better looking computers, not add more restrictions to their OS.


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#70 2012-11-20 00:03:21

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

16Skittles wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

16Skittles wrote:


Yuck, VS? It's an oversized, bloated IDE. Code::Blocks all the way. Fairly lightweight, open-source, and cross-platform.  smile

It's the only way to publish apps to the Windows 8 store. ._.

Yuck, Windows 8 Store.  tongue  Really, though. If Microsoft wanted to be more like apple, they should make better looking computers, not add more restrictions to their OS.

I get what you mean. Why copy the bad points of a competitor, when you can copy their good points.

But to be honest, it's hard to make a good looking computer design, without making it look like a full-on Apple lookalike.


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#71 2012-11-20 00:06:05

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

jji7skyline wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:


App development is not a cheap hobby/business. Chances are, if they can afford to make a good app, they can save up for a Mac.

I think it's ridiculous to make people buy a Mac and then make them pay a developer's fee. I mean, it's one thing to want to make money; that I understand. It's another thing to be completely excessive and trying to squeeze as much out of people as they can, which it seems like Apple's trying to do here.

Apple's never been known to be particularly friendly to developers, which seems fine though kinda sad but whatevs.

How is this fine?


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#72 2012-11-20 00:19:42

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

veggieman001 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

veggieman001 wrote:


I think it's ridiculous to make people buy a Mac and then make them pay a developer's fee. I mean, it's one thing to want to make money; that I understand. It's another thing to be completely excessive and trying to squeeze as much out of people as they can, which it seems like Apple's trying to do here.

Apple's never been known to be particularly friendly to developers, which seems fine though kinda sad but whatevs.

How is this fine?

Because how could apple ever do anything wrong?  roll


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#73 2012-11-20 00:24:36

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

As I said on some other thread, it looks great.....for a tablet OS. It's like Apple merging OSX and IOS.


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#74 2012-11-20 01:00:26

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But Apple aren't merging OSX and iOS. Sure they're making them work better together, and bring features from one to the other, but they're definitely not merging into one product.


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#75 2012-11-20 01:13:52

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Re: Windows 8 VS iPad 4

jji7skyline wrote:

But Apple aren't merging OSX and iOS. Sure they're making them work better together, and bring features from one to the other, but they're definitely not merging into one product.

I said it was LIKE, not what they are going to do. If they were, I would probably move to Linux.


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