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tpg56 wrote:

could u please make a mac version? Thanks.

At http://byob.berkeley.edu you'll find a Mac version.  Just unzip it, put the folder anywhere, and one of the things in the folder is BYOB.app.

all of the underlying magic down to the VM can be inspected and even edited with Elements, BYOB is much more open than even Scratch itself, with no specific "source code" release needed! I'm even programming parts of BYOB with Elements alone! So, we're radically adhering to the requirement of publishing the source code. But relax, we're going to give you "files" to edit as well in August.

RocketRat wrote:

I managed to make it freeze! Lol!

What did you do?

Is it possible to make completely new blocks in the elements editor? I know it's kind of pointless, but you should make it possible.

Jens wrote:

So, you want to define your own procedures and functions in Scratch? Build your own blocks (BYOB    )?

You might as well try this new experimental prototype I have been developing over the last weeks. You can download and read through an overview (pdf), or download the whole application (including the overview) and start playing with it right away.

This prototype lets you build your own custom blocks in Scratch using the standard Scratch blocks, as well as other blocks you defined elsewhere. You can create your own command blocks (procedures) and reporter blocks (functions), both regular ("round") and boolean ("diamond"). You can specify for each block to be atomic (run at the speed of a single block) or interleafed. Your custom blocks are defined for each sprite and can be shared among projects together with the sprite they were created for. Oh, and you can even use a block within itself (recursion).

This prototype is very, very, experimental, so be prepared to encounter lots of bugs. I'd be very interested in feedback about your experiences and insights.

Enjoy!
-Jens

Thanks, this is a great program... one bug i found, was, when you add a long stack in a block you're making, it freezes. Now I use BYOB 2.99.

Twilight-Tak wrote:

My mom won't let me download BYOB, no matter how much I tell her it's made by one of the most trusted scratchers like, EVER.

See if your mom will send me an email (bh@cs.berkeley.edu) and we can discuss it.

EDIT: This being the second such comment I've seen, I've made the message on the web site less humor-impaired-parent-unfriendly. 

Last edited by bharvey (2010-05-31 23:38:37)

Billybob-Mario wrote:

I heard that there was a 'Patch' type thing for BYOB to attach it to Scratch or a mod? Where is it. Thank you in advance!

I'm not sure what you mean.  BYOB includes (is an extension of) Scratch, so there's no need to attach it.  If you want to merge BYOB into your mod, please wait for the official release in August, at which time the source image and changes file will be available.  We are very happy for everyone to use our code at that time!  But we want to get it right first; there are still a lot of rough edges.

markyparky56 wrote:

Billybob-Mario wrote:

I heard that there was a 'Patch' type thing for BYOB to attach it to Scratch or a mod? Where is it. Thank you in advance!

BYOB is a Mod, its not a patch, addon, plug-in.

AI know, but someone said there was a way of 'patching' it on.

Billybob-Mario wrote:

you can't change block variable names, like it says to when you embed the 'for' loop.

I'm not sure I understand.  Do you mean you can't change the name of the "i" variable in the FOR block?  Sometimes I have trouble clicking without dragging at all; if you drag even a little, then instead of giving you the name change dialog it tears off a copy of the variable oval.  Is that what's happening for you?  Thanks.

Billybob-Mario wrote:

Maybe you could have a right-click menu option for those variables for renaming all the time.

Great idea.  Thanks!

I found a bug for the alpha 2.9.9 [blocks] <sorry>  [/blocks]!

http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=10887#req_message