Scratch

its easier just to flag stuff

seriously we cant protect our children from every bad word. if they dont see it here they will see it on google or the news or anywhere. swear words arent a big deal

This would be extremely hard to impliment...

When 2.0 comes out a lot of parent's are going to want to stop their children using the site anyway, simply because of the new features, and as Wes64 said, They're not that big of a deal and many children will already know swear words.

Googling something and having a page with a swear word come up is not going to traumatise a child like something else might. Projects that include stuff like this get flagged. If it's good enough for stuff like that, why do we need a separate system for text? why are there no suggestions to get every image uploaded checked?

Just flag it.
If you go onto the internet, don't expect your 7 year old to be safe from all things.

zammer990 wrote:

When 2.0 comes out a lot of parent's are going to want to stop their children using the site anyway, simply because of the new features, and as Wes64 said, They're not that big of a deal and many children will already know swear words.

Googling something and having a page with a swear word come up is not going to traumatise a child like something else might. Projects that include stuff like this get flagged. If it's good enough for stuff like that, why do we need a separate system for text? why are there no suggestions to get every image uploaded checked?

You don't know that parents want children to stop playing scratch because of new features ( which sounds unreasonable to me ) and we do not want children to learn swear words from this site, if a children learns swear words, we do not want them to blame it on Scratch, because parents might get mad. Children will eventually learn them, but how i learn them was by asking my mom    Again, projects including bad stuff might be too late for flagging, say for example, a child looks at the project and wants to flag it, but sees the bad words.

Anyways,why is so many people opposing? This is just a suggestion, not a debate! I want to make Scratch better, and people are saying its much easier to flag. What do we have to lose?

zammer990 wrote:

KrIsMa wrote:

You don't know that parents want children to stop playing scratch because of new features ( which sounds unreasonable to me ) and we do not want children to learn swear words from this site, if a children learns swear words, we do not want them to blame it on Scratch, because parents might get mad. Children will eventually learn them, but how i learn them was by asking my mom    Again, projects including bad stuff might be too late for flagging, say for example, a child looks at the project and wants to flag it, but sees the bad words.

Anyways,why is so many people opposing? This is just a suggestion, not a debate! I want to make Scratch better, and people are saying its much easier to flag. What do we have to lose?

I think many parents will be concerned if they see their child in a chatroom, regardless of the content. And you seemed to neglect that this would still make projects that contain bad content in need of flagging, despite their obviously worse effect on children.

If parents do not want their child to see stuff like that, don't let them have internet connection. No matter WHERE you go, something is gonna come up. Simple as that. Of course you don't want Scratch to have bad words, but why completely change the layout of the site and system to prevent things that can be flagged? Kids already know swears. And if they don't, you shouldn't let 5 year-olds on the site. Even if they, are, what are they gonna do? Ask what the word means? Google it?

jvvg wrote:

Wes64 wrote:

its easier just to flag stuff

seriously we cant protect our children from every bad word. if they dont see it here they will see it on google or the news or anywhere. swear words arent a big deal

Still, it's still important to keep the site kid-friendly, even if some other ones aren't. Swear words actually are a big deal, because if a parent sees a swear word on this site, they might make their kid stop using this site.

@Molybdenum: no, that's a bad idea, because people would see the words if they looked at the code.

Oh. I assumed that the bad words would all be converted to "*" while they were uploaded. Silly me.

Mokat wrote:

Molybdenum wrote:

jvvg wrote:

Still, it's still important to keep the site kid-friendly, even if some other ones aren't. Swear words actually are a big deal, because if a parent sees a swear word on this site, they might make their kid stop using this site.

@Molybdenum: no, that's a bad idea, because people would see the words if they looked at the code.

Oh. I assumed that the bad words would all be converted to "*" while they were uploaded. Silly me.

That's only on the forums. It shoudl be like that for comments too.

ocmments. 

jvvg wrote:

dvd4 wrote:

Mokat wrote:

That's only on the forums. It shoudl be like that for comments too.

ocmments. 

I just looked at some stuff in ScratchR, and currently, it doesn't allow profanity in the project title or notes when the project is uploaded.

How do you view ScratchR, btw?

KrIsMa wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

jvvg wrote:

I just looked at some stuff in ScratchR, and currently, it doesn't allow profanity in the project title or notes when the project is uploaded.

How do you view ScratchR, btw?

1. ABSOLUTELY NO SWEAR WORDS ON SCRATCH WEBSITE, NEVER!
2. Of course people will google bad words if they dont know what them mean.

And what kind of user does not know bad words?
A five year old?
Who lets a five year old on the site?

Molybdenum wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

KrIsMa wrote:

1. ABSOLUTELY NO SWEAR WORDS ON SCRATCH WEBSITE, NEVER!
2. Of course people will google bad words if they dont know what them mean.

And what kind of user does not know bad words?
A five year old?
Who lets a five year old on the site?

http://stats.scratch.mit.edu/community/usersbyage.html

Thanks for that post.

mythbusteranimator wrote:

KrIsMa wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

How do you view ScratchR, btw?

1. ABSOLUTELY NO SWEAR WORDS ON SCRATCH WEBSITE, NEVER!
2. Of course people will google bad words if they dont know what them mean.

And what kind of user does not know bad words?
A five year old?
Who lets a five year old on the site?

-- nice the point is that Scratch does not want to make people learn those bad words or even more complicated words not just the s and f but also some more. So if 5-8 yr old does not know any swear words, they wont learn from scratch. Close request because I dont want this argument to be out of control. And I will ignore comments about this forum on one of my games. Thanks!
And thanks for all those supports.

Last edited by KrIsMa (2012-10-26 18:47:53)

Mokat wrote:

Molybdenum wrote:

mythbusteranimator wrote:

And what kind of user does not know bad words?
A five year old?
Who lets a five year old on the site?

http://stats.scratch.mit.edu/community/usersbyage.html

I put my age as 100 when registering. xD

O_o