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NeilWest · 2012-10-12 11:58:45

This belongs here because you study algebra - which is close to reading. However, I made this text so it could belong to MaC. Mods decide pls.

Algebra isn't complicated at all if you go from the start and know what Algebra basically is. Many early math students hate algebra when they realize that they are doing it, but you may not know that you are doing Algebra - even when you start doing maths! Algebra means replacing numbers in a sum with letters, or for earlier math classes; symbols like stars or squares. I'm not math teacher, but I find it easy to understand algebra, and maybe I could help you understand it too if you're struggling with it.

To begin with, an algebra sum is only possible if it follows these guidelines:

It has to have at least one number.
If all the numbers in the sum are letters, at least one has an obvious value.
The answer is equal to the sum.
It follows other basic sum rules.

If it breaks these rules, it either needs to be fixed or you'll need to find values as long as there is an answer. No point if you get x + y = 2c
However, if you learn about nth term or position to term rules, you might find an exception for that.

The next thing I'll talk about is sum presentation. Add, minus and equals stay the same, as well as brackets and powers. However, multiply and divide are different. First, theres multiply. If you saw the example I gave earlier on, you'll notice that I put 2c. This means 2 x c, or c x 2. If using a number and a letter together, you'll need to put them side by side, the number always first. If multiplying a number, then it's the normal way, 2 x 2. Don't get them mixed up.

Divide is different too. Instead of 2 / 2, we do it as a fraction, only the dividing line is straight, not slanted. One more thing about presentation, in the example I gave you, I also made the x look different. That's because I could easily get an x mixed up with a multiply sign - so I slanted it (using the italic BBCode).

I hope I helped you understand algebra that bit more, and if you're reading this for fun, I hope you enjoyed my guide. If you need to know anything else about algebra, then feel free to tell me - I'll try my best to help you.

northmeister · 2012-10-12 12:03:59

When lots of people hear the word 'algebra,' they automatically think 'oh noez, it's algebra,' and they don't want to hear any more about it, when in fact it's not that hard at all. tongue

mythbusteranimator · 2012-10-12 12:06:29

It isn't.

Try learning calculus and factoring quadratic trinomials. tongue

northmeister · 2012-10-12 12:19:24

mythbusteranimator wrote:
It isn't.

Try learning calculus and factoring quadratic trinomials.

I mean simple algebra, like 5y+13=8y+3 or something like that. When most people in my class at school see that, they just don't want to try to do it.

Hardmath123 · 2012-10-12 12:22:21

Algebra isn't always about finding numerical answers, though. As a simple example, the quadratic formula is an important non-numerical result. wink

mythbusteranimator · 2012-10-12 12:25:40

northmeister wrote:
mythbusteranimator wrote:
It isn't.

Try learning calculus and factoring quadratic trinomials.
I mean simple algebra, like 5y+13=8y+3 or something like that. When most people in my class at school see that, they just don't want to try to do it.

really
that is sorta dumb
but you do realize that is a linear equation, I believe

transparent · 2012-10-12 14:47:39

I like Algebra better than Geometry. >.<

slinger · 2012-10-12 14:48:14

transparent wrote:
I like Algebra better than Geometry. >.<

Yes.

yousmiledatme · 2012-10-12 14:56:56

ugh that was a complicated post
i need things in small pieces to satisfy my small brain
but i've already learnt it so whatever

RedRocker227 · 2012-10-12 15:05:33

We're doing algebra in school

I got accused of cheating by the teacher today because I got 100% on a test

cartooncreator · 2012-10-12 15:08:20

Whew. Algebra confuzzles me, but if I put my mind to it, I can manage.

witchartix · 2012-10-12 16:13:44

mythbusteranimator wrote:
northmeister wrote:
mythbusteranimator wrote:
It isn't.

Try learning calculus and factoring quadratic trinomials.
I mean simple algebra, like 5y+13=8y+3 or something like that. When most people in my class at school see that, they just don't want to try to do it.
really
that is sorta dumb
but you do realize that is a linear equation, I believe

Im not sure what that means, but I do know y = 3.33333etc. Im am not a fan of algebra, but I do like to think I'm barely understanding this. (Im almost done with and I'll be doing Geometry next year or so.)

transparent · 2012-10-12 16:21:21

RedRocker227 wrote:
I got accused of cheating by the teacher today because I got 100% on a test

Pfhaha, that's implying that she wants you to stop getting good grades. What a great teacher.

yousmiledatme · 2012-10-12 16:43:33

RedRocker227 wrote:
We're doing algebra in school

I got accused of cheating by the teacher today because I got 100% on a test

bun the witch :]
is s/he like me? my kin-in-mind have travelled all other the world big_smile
okay quick test:
1 does s/he have a box of matches and stack of kindling wood
2 does s/he always have dough
3 does s/he grit her teeth a lot
4 is s/he irresistibly charming

RedRocker227 · 2012-10-12 17:00:32

yousmiledatme wrote:
RedRocker227 wrote:
We're doing algebra in school

I got accused of cheating by the teacher today because I got 100% on a test
bun the witch :]
is s/he like me? my kin-in-mind have travelled all other the world
okay quick test:
1 does s/he have a box of matches and stack of kindling wood
2 does s/he always have dough
3 does s/he grit her teeth a lot
4 is s/he irresistibly charming

No
No
No
Ew no

Also he's a he

jukyter · 2012-10-12 17:37:06

RedRocker227 wrote:
yousmiledatme wrote:
RedRocker227 wrote:
We're doing algebra in school

I got accused of cheating by the teacher today because I got 100% on a test
bun the witch :]
is s/he like me? my kin-in-mind have travelled all other the world
okay quick test:
1 does s/he have a box of matches and stack of kindling wood
2 does s/he always have dough
3 does s/he grit her teeth a lot
4 is s/he irresistibly charming
No
No
No
Ew no

Also he's a he

Obviously not like me then :S
Off to burn some more witches then

SilverBells · 2012-10-12 17:44:59

transparent wrote:
I like Algebra better than Geometry. >.<

I love Algebra. I started Geometry and I was like, "I miss Algebra! ;n;"

poopo · 2012-10-12 17:53:51

SilverBells wrote:
transparent wrote:
I like Algebra better than Geometry. >.<
I love Algebra. I started Geometry and I was like, "I miss Algebra! ;n;"

Geometry is bossome with all the sines and funky junk like that.
Algebra is fun too. smile I'm doing precal right now and it's kind of fun, although not as much as geo.

@neil why do you have rollin' and scratchin' and deadmau5 in the same pic? rollin' and scratchin' is by Daft Punk.
Edit: ahh I see it links to dp's song.

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SilverBells · 2012-10-12 17:59:21

poopo wrote:
SilverBells wrote:
transparent wrote:
I like Algebra better than Geometry. >.<
I love Algebra. I started Geometry and I was like, "I miss Algebra! ;n;"
Geometry is bossome with all the sines and funky junk like that.
Algebra is fun too. I'm doing precal right now and it's kind of fun, although not as much as geo.

@neil why do you have rollin' and scratchin' and deadmau5 in the same pic? rollin' and scratchin' is by Daft Punk.
Edit: ahh I see it links to dp's song.

I miss numbers! I'm good at numbers! I remember when math actually consisted of numbers! xD Now it's all just definitions, theorems, postulates and proofs. xP
Cool. I'm doing precal next year. c:

joletole · 2012-10-12 18:33:46

mythbusteranimator wrote:
It isn't.

Try learning calculus and factoring quadratic trinomials.

SPEAK ENGLISH!! No, jk. I am taking pre cal right now. It is okay. Though my teacher is awesome!

poopo · 2012-10-12 19:05:56

SilverBells wrote:
poopo wrote:
SilverBells wrote:
I love Algebra. I started Geometry and I was like, "I miss Algebra! ;n;"
Geometry is bossome with all the sines and funky junk like that.
Algebra is fun too. I'm doing precal right now and it's kind of fun, although not as much as geo.

@neil why do you have rollin' and scratchin' and deadmau5 in the same pic? rollin' and scratchin' is by Daft Punk.
Edit: ahh I see it links to dp's song.
I miss numbers! I'm good at numbers! I remember when math actually consisted of numbers! xD Now it's all just definitions, theorems, postulates and proofs. xP
Cool. I'm doing precal next year. c:

smile Luckly a lot of precal and even geometry can be done with a calculator.

@mythbuster Factoring polynomials of those are hard at all. You just have to understand them and their rules. It is pretty much that way with all math. tongue
Give me any polynomial and I will factor it.

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transparent · 2012-10-12 19:49:38

Did anyone else do Algebra 1 in 8th grade?

kayybee · 2012-10-12 20:20:08

transparent wrote:
Did anyone else do Algebra 1 in 8th grade?

I did. It was really really easy that I pretested out of every chapter. Currently I'm in pre-calc/trig.

Wickimen · 2012-10-12 20:24:39

I'm in Algebra 1 this year (eighth grade) and it's very easy except for the word problems that make things overcomplex and dumb

transparent · 2012-10-13 07:45:38

kayybee wrote:
transparent wrote:
Did anyone else do Algebra 1 in 8th grade?
I did. It was really really easy that I pretested out of every chapter. Currently I'm in pre-calc/trig.

Wow, what grade are you in? Surely not ninth...
I'm in ninth grade working on Geometry.

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