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9star wrote:

lalala3 wrote:

You're not supposed to feed any wildlife. None. Not ducks, not songbirds, etc.

oh really? explain THIS then

they meant that the website said that... and that's wikihow and your previous link was the daily mail

9star wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

9star wrote:

no i'm not! i love all animals.(and i don't kill weeds) i'm just saying that people should include pigeons in bird feeding. i have nothing against ducks. and i really love them 'cos i don't EAT them.

You do realize weeds cannot feel any pain at all right
Like, you are literally having no effect on anything or being nicer than anyone for not killing them

(plants) can feel pain and talk to each other but thats a different arguement

they can sense pain and send chemical signals but they lack a nervous system and the nociceptors that go with one (which is what makes you feel pain).

also, the daily mail is known for being untrustworthy; it's more of a tabloid than a newspaper

I agree. I don't think the pigeons are thinking "I HATE THOSE HUMANS BECAUSE THEY FEED THEIR PET DOGS BUT NOT ME!"

ImagineIt wrote:

jukyter wrote:

disney22girl wrote:

pigeons are not pests god made them for a reason!!! I feed them since I was 4 years old

offended
im a strict buddhist....

So are you Buddhist or a Gnostic Christian? 

I think he just goes with the flow

I think he may have been Pastafarian once

soupoftomato wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

jukyter wrote:

offended
im a strict buddhist....

So are you Buddhist or a Gnostic Christian? 

I think he just goes with the flow

I think he may have been Pastafarian once

yeah man
be whatever you feel like

Necromaster wrote:

jukyter wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

I think he just goes with the flow

I think he may have been Pastafarian once

yeah man
be whatever you feel like

I'm a Unitarian Universalist Atheist

I'm also a History Monk

im a guy who hey wait a minute this isnt the religion and philosophy discussion topic!

bananaman114 wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

I agree. I don't think the pigeons are thinking "I HATE THOSE HUMANS BECAUSE THEY FEED THEIR PET DOGS BUT NOT ME!"

They have no sense of entitlement, they're pigeons.
They can survive on their own!
I'm just wondering, 9star (et al)-
what's your opinion on feeding rats?

btw feeding them makes them more reliant on humans and makes them less able to survive on their own yay

bananaman114 wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

I agree. I don't think the pigeons are thinking "I HATE THOSE HUMANS BECAUSE THEY FEED THEIR PET DOGS BUT NOT ME!"

They have no sense of entitlement, they're pigeons.
They can survive on their own!
I'm just wondering, 9star (et al)-
what's your opinion on feeding rats?

feeding them a little treat every now and then is okay. i don't agree with killing rats with traps/poison, you should get a cat or dog instead. where i used to live rats would come down from the woods. becuase they were from the woods they were clean so the only problem with them was the sheer numbers.

9star wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

I agree. I don't think the pigeons are thinking "I HATE THOSE HUMANS BECAUSE THEY FEED THEIR PET DOGS BUT NOT ME!"

They have no sense of entitlement, they're pigeons.
They can survive on their own!
I'm just wondering, 9star (et al)-
what's your opinion on feeding rats?

feeding them a little treat every now and then is okay. i don't agree with killing rats with traps/poison, you should get a cat or dog instead. where i used to live rats would come down from the woods. becuase they were from the woods they were clean so the only problem with them was the sheer numbers.

You see, cats and dogs do a rather messy job of killing our fine (nice), fine (small), and furry little friends. Traps and poison do it quickly without the needless gore.

Necromaster wrote:

Actually, the common pigeon is a wild animal.

not in MURRICA

Necromaster wrote:

9star wrote:

bananaman114 wrote:

They have no sense of entitlement, they're pigeons.
They can survive on their own!
I'm just wondering, 9star (et al)-
what's your opinion on feeding rats?

feeding them a little treat every now and then is okay. i don't agree with killing rats with traps/poison, you should get a cat or dog instead. where i used to live rats would come down from the woods. becuase they were from the woods they were clean so the only problem with them was the sheer numbers.

You see, cats and dogs do a rather messy job of killing our fine (nice), fine (small), and furry little friends. Traps and poison do it quickly without the needless gore.

cats naturally hunt them. the ancestors of our cats [the wildcats] have been killing them for thousands of years so really it's fine where poison/traps haven't been around for that long.                                                                                      and dogs generally just scare them away.

9star wrote:

Necromaster wrote:

9star wrote:

feeding them a little treat every now and then is okay. i don't agree with killing rats with traps/poison, you should get a cat or dog instead. where i used to live rats would come down from the woods. becuase they were from the woods they were clean so the only problem with them was the sheer numbers.

You see, cats and dogs do a rather messy job of killing our fine (nice), fine (small), and furry little friends. Traps and poison do it quickly without the needless gore.

cats naturally hunt them. the ancestors of our cats [the wildcats] have been killing them for thousands of years so really it's fine where poison/traps haven't been around for that long.                                                                                      and dogs generally just scare them away.

Yes, but killing them by traps is more humane, since it's a much quicker and more sudden death than being chased, attacked and killed by a cat.

9star wrote:

Necromaster wrote:

9star wrote:

they don't in a way, like they wouldn't atack you for not feeding them but its a nice gesture to fed them and feeding them DOES actually help them. the pigeons i feed know me and they appreciate being fed.

Actually, the common pigeon is a wild animal. You are domesticating it... You are teaching it to expect food from human beings. Its survival chance has been greatly dented.

like i've said before it won't forget how to find it's own food because they are smart.

No, they are NOT smart.  They survive on instinct, and you are killing their survival instincts.