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9star wrote:

777w wrote:

here are the reasons in case anybody was too lazy to look at them themselves

Every year we receives a large number of complaints from members of the public regarding problems caused by pigeons.

Clearing up pigeon droppings can be very expensive. Droppings can also damage property, block gutters and make pavements slippery. Pigeons can carry diseases, which puts our health and our children’s health at risk.

They cause problems with insect pests and food put out for pigeons can attract vermin such as rats and mice.

Pigeons are wildlife. They are not domesticated and they are not dependant on us to feed them.

each of these reasons is perfectly valid

[in britain] there are high levels of unemployment. cleaning up pigeon poop is a job, so itn't that a good thing?. here a source that pigeons pose a low health risk  however a little girl caught BUBONIC PLAGUE from a squirrel                                                          

I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST SQUIRRELS but this is simply proof that squirrels are more "dangerous" that pigeons. and pigeons cannot carry fleas so you cannot catch the bubonic plague off them!!! .

First of all, the bubonic plague isn't like it was in the 18th century or whatever.  Remember that when it wiped out like a third of the population, it was the time when it was called a 'curse' or 'magic'.  What you are saying is that disease is good because it creates jobs for doctors, and murder is good because it creates jobs for forensics experts (wasn't sure what to call them).

luiysia wrote:

So what you're saying is that intentionally spreading around bird poop (which does carry many, many diseases) will be good for towns? That's like saying littering in cities is OK - it'll open up more job spaces! Just because it kills plants (bird droppings are bad for plants because of the uric acid and pigeons are no exception) and makes the city disgusting (it's poop, you see) isn't a reason not to feed feral animals that are capable of getting their own food!

i didn't mean deliberately spreading it around! or deliberately littering. what i meant was that pigeons just pooing on the ground would free up jobs. and there wouldn't be any (or a LOT LESS) if people cleaned it up. there is a huge difference between deliberately spreading it 'round  to the pigeons pooing
and also....
you poop to! and if you don't, go to the doctor 

yousmiledatme wrote:

i have incredibly bad constipation 50% of the time ;_;
but there's a difference from keeping clean human poo in sewers to have diseased bird poop on cars

well, PIGEONS ARE NOT DISEASE CARRYING BIRDS (click here. proof that pigeons do not present a health hazard)

9star wrote:

yousmiledatme wrote:

i have incredibly bad constipation 50% of the time ;_;
but there's a difference from keeping clean human poo in sewers to have diseased bird poop on cars

well, PIGEONS ARE NOT DISEASE CARRYING BIRDS (click here. proof that pigeons do not present a health hazard)

personally i wouldnt trust a website made with "yola"
doesnt look too professional does it

Some people like pigions, some don't. Personanally squirrels are much more of a nuicence;
i've never seen pigions chew THROUGH a plastic bin and spread rubbish everywhere. But then again, i'm not in a dense city so yah. Bye.

Not teaching people how to drive is good, it means there's jobs for people to clean up wrecks and rebuild houses.

Not teaching people first aid is good, it gives more jobs for paramedics.

Not teaching kids to stop, drop and roll is good, it warms up houses cutting heating costs.

Graffiti is good, it gives jobs to people who clean it up.

Seriously, no government's going to make a problem just so someone gets to fix it. The unemployment issue should not be in the public sector's hands, people should work for private companies instead of getting paid by the state, the state should be spending money on things like education, not cleaning up bird poop. Why don't we teach kids to steal in schools so there's more jobs open in the police force? Because we'd be spending money on creating the problem then spending more money fixing it.

luiysia wrote:

9star wrote:

luiysia wrote:

So what you're saying is that intentionally spreading around bird poop (which does carry many, many diseases) will be good for towns? That's like saying littering in cities is OK - it'll open up more job spaces! Just because it kills plants (bird droppings are bad for plants because of the uric acid and pigeons are no exception) and makes the city disgusting (it's poop, you see) isn't a reason not to feed feral animals that are capable of getting their own food!

i didn't mean deliberately spreading it around! or deliberately littering. what i meant was that pigeons just pooing on the ground would free up jobs. and there wouldn't be any (or a LOT LESS) if people cleaned it up. there is a huge difference between deliberately spreading it 'round  to the pigeons pooing
and also....
you poop to! and if you don't, go to the doctor 

By feeding pigeons you are spreading the birds (and their poop) and encouraging them to reproduce more. I do poop, but not on streets and benches and statues. Also, are you saying that... just leaving poop around will magically create jobs? I thought that you meant it would create jobs that required people to wander around and clean up poop all day. And how many jobs could that create? Since it'd be dumb to just wander around scraping up every pigeon glob, would they follow around flocks of pigeons?
Also just because you can't catch the bubonic plague off them doesn't mean they're not bad for people. For instance, you can't catch the bubonic plague from eating uncooked chicken that's been sitting in the sun, but that doesn't make it OK.

Also, I liked the fact that the site you linked saying that various people said that pigeons are OK has literally no sources whatsoever.

you'v bee telling me to link so i have so you can't moan AT ME!!!!
and i'm a vegan so i don't eat that disgusting chicken anywayz.

9star wrote:

luiysia wrote:

9star wrote:

i didn't mean deliberately spreading it around! or deliberately littering. what i meant was that pigeons just pooing on the ground would free up jobs. and there wouldn't be any (or a LOT LESS) if people cleaned it up. there is a huge difference between deliberately spreading it 'round  to the pigeons pooing
and also....
you poop to! and if you don't, go to the doctor 

By feeding pigeons you are spreading the birds (and their poop) and encouraging them to reproduce more. I do poop, but not on streets and benches and statues. Also, are you saying that... just leaving poop around will magically create jobs? I thought that you meant it would create jobs that required people to wander around and clean up poop all day. And how many jobs could that create? Since it'd be dumb to just wander around scraping up every pigeon glob, would they follow around flocks of pigeons?
Also just because you can't catch the bubonic plague off them doesn't mean they're not bad for people. For instance, you can't catch the bubonic plague from eating uncooked chicken that's been sitting in the sun, but that doesn't make it OK.

Also, I liked the fact that the site you linked saying that various people said that pigeons are OK has literally no sources whatsoever.

you'v bee telling me to link so i have so you can't moan AT ME!!!!
and i'm a vegan so i don't eat that disgusting chicken anywayz.

So now cancer isn't a problem because you're healthy and don't have that disgusting disease anywayz?

This is quite the hilarious topic. One for the books when this is just a memory. 

9star wrote:

luiysia wrote:

So what you're saying is that intentionally spreading around bird poop (which does carry many, many diseases) will be good for towns? That's like saying littering in cities is OK - it'll open up more job spaces! Just because it kills plants (bird droppings are bad for plants because of the uric acid and pigeons are no exception) and makes the city disgusting (it's poop, you see) isn't a reason not to feed feral animals that are capable of getting their own food!

many, many diseases??? i read that article and THREE DISEASES IS NOT "many, many diseases"

Hello?  Diseases?

NeilWest wrote:

9star wrote:

NeilWest wrote:

I must admit, I do have a dislike for pigeons. After the fact I was eating a sandwich on a school trip, then a pigeon came, snatched it, ate it, then proceeded to vomit it back up after 3 seconds. Waste of a perfectly good sandwich.

what was in the sandwich? if it was meat, the pigeon would vomit it up, 'cos they don't eat meat.

Ham. Besides the point, I actually like wood pigeons because they don't flock around you and they can find their own food.

i love those to!  i found an injured one in my garden the other day. we caught him in a box and found out he could still fly a bit but he had a chunk bitten out of his wing    so we phoned  a bird hospital and they came to get him. we phoned up yesterday and found uot he had died... he survived a few days and they gave him painkillers and some water. i named him elvis.

maxskywalker wrote:

9star wrote:

luiysia wrote:

So what you're saying is that intentionally spreading around bird poop (which does carry many, many diseases) will be good for towns? That's like saying littering in cities is OK - it'll open up more job spaces! Just because it kills plants (bird droppings are bad for plants because of the uric acid and pigeons are no exception) and makes the city disgusting (it's poop, you see) isn't a reason not to feed feral animals that are capable of getting their own food!

many, many diseases??? i read that article and THREE DISEASES IS NOT "many, many diseases"

Hello?  Diseases?

yes. diseases. probably very very rare diseases.

PonyvilleSlugger wrote:

9star wrote:

maxskywalker wrote:

Hello?  Diseases?

yes. diseases. probably very very rare diseases.

Did you even read it or did you just count how many it described? Only 1 of them is really rare, the other 2 can be caught by anyone as long as it dries out and is removed from a surface.

did you even read my other post? (

earlier i  wrote:

probably very very rare diseases.

) see? i said "probably". and outside it isn't a problem! and in the unlikely event that it is people could just come out once a week (or maybe every 2 days) and CLEAN IT UP. they don't ban keeping dogs because they poop everywhere do they? people [irresponsible owners don't] clean dog poop up.
read this. no matter how many diseases pigeon carry, it is VERY RARE to catch one off a pigeon
and if you are to lazy to read it:

avianweb.com wrote:

catching a disease from another human is far greater than it is to catch one from a bird (pigeon or otherwise).

Last edited by 9star (2012-10-26 07:34:13)