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jvvg · 2012-10-09 22:11:47

soupoftomato wrote:
Anyone seen the O'Reilly vs Stewart debate?

Parts of it. It was pretty funny.

soupoftomato · 2012-10-09 22:13:03

12three wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
Anyone seen the O'Reilly vs Stewart debate?
i thought 'O'Reilly' died in 1937?

Bill O'Reilly, the host of The O'Reilly Factor

16Skittles · 2012-10-09 22:22:41

soupoftomato wrote:
12three wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
Anyone seen the O'Reilly vs Stewart debate?
i thought 'O'Reilly' died in 1937?
Bill O'Reilly, the host of The O'Reilly Factor

He is quite fair and balanced.

obfuscate · 2012-10-09 22:23:41

A lot of creative-minded kids start engaging in politics early -- and I think that's a really good thing. I went through a political phase myself when I was 11 and 12. I think the earlier you get it out of the way, the better. People who use the internet often and also have strong opinions tend to start arguing on the internet a lot, and, frankly, that's a waste of time.

soupoftomato · 2012-10-09 22:23:42

16Skittles wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
12three wrote:

i thought 'O'Reilly' died in 1937?
Bill O'Reilly, the host of The O'Reilly Factor
He is quite fair and balanced.

In some universe

stevetheipad · 2012-10-09 22:26:04

16Skittles wrote:
soupoftomato wrote:
16Skittles wrote:

I'm sorry, are,you 16skittles? Nice to meet you.
Typing on some sort of mobile device, I see.
I'm typing on Steve right now.

Steve's on my desk right now. tongue

MoreGamesNow · 2012-10-09 22:38:08

*Posting in topic so I can get notified when it is posted in*

Compared to... other websites... this has remained pretty civil.

I guess I'd just advocate for less emotional language. A (genuine) "please" and (genuine) questions work wonders at keeping conversations civil, while sarcasm, exclamation points, and contempt (and possibly rhetorical questions) don't really help clarify the issue and just make things more heated.

MoreGamesNow · 2012-10-09 22:40:58

obfuscate wrote:
A lot of creative-minded kids start engaging in politics early -- and I think that's a really good thing. I went through a political phase myself when I was 11 and 12. I think the earlier you get it out of the way, the better. People who use the internet often and also have strong opinions tend to start arguing on the internet a lot, and, frankly, that's a waste of time.

I agree, the old maxim "pick your battles" is a lesson best learned young. I'm not saying that the discussion(s) up until this point have been a waste of time, but political discussions typically don't lead to enlightenment xD.

16Skittles · 2012-10-09 22:53:21

I don't mind, purely for the satisfaction of running a crusade, trying to bring truth into a corner of the Internet. Also I think if it is a civil debate it is beneficial regardless of wether or not opinions change, by doing actual research you yourself are enlightened.

veggieman001 · 2012-10-09 23:05:33

CN12 wrote:
veggieman001 wrote:
CN12 wrote:
16Skittles wrote:
CN12 wrote:
I got one thing that the media went nuts over that the Republicans said: Mitt Romney mentioned cutting PBS, and later that week I was at a Jasons Deli and on the news on the tv, the headline was "Big cuts to Big Bird". I'm sure that if Obama had said that, no one would care.
Your argument is completely invalid and based off of assumptions. It is a part of Mitt Romney's economic plan to cut funding to PBS, 0.01% of the federal budget, and what the Pentagon spends every six hours. [source]
You can't make an assumption about that, because Obama DIDN'T say something stupid like that. Come back when you have a valid case of something a democrat has said (recently) that was ignored by the media.
PBS is a program that people learn from, use, and benefit from every day. Why cut that when we could cut wars in Afghanistan,or some other things on this list and save BILLIONS of dollars each year? For example, the Joint Strike Fighter program is basically an inferior version of the F-22 Raptor, being developed at the same time and using over ten billion dollars each year. And that's small change compared to the wars we're actually fighting - Operation Iraqi Freedom cost over 800 billion dollars. I'm not a big fan of the F-35/F-22, basically a plan to replace the best jets in the world with newer, more expensive best jets in the world, but I wouldn't be opposed to continuing research and development if we were saving that much money from stopping the wars in the middle east. Go after the big programs that aren't important, not the little programs that are actually used.
I give up. I'm not going to try to argue with a Democrat.
that's just offensive and mean-spirited, which isn't what this topic should be about
mr. skittles here is linking to his sources and collecting facts to support his arguments and i don't really see you doing that
i don't really think partisan-ness (whats the word for that??) comes in to this as long as you back up your arguments. thebriculator, a republican, is doing a great job of that.
CN12 wrote:

Oh really? Give me 5 examples.
and like asking this isn't really fair when you wouldn't even back up your argument with one sourced case with skittles and jvvg has one right there.
Eeerrrrghhhhh!!!!!

wat

yousmiledatme · 2012-10-10 02:35:27

MoreGamesNow wrote:
*Posting in topic so I can get notified when it is posted in*

that doesn't happen by the way
okay so with this separation of church and state thingy i'd like to give my two pence:

jvvg wrote:
I am not Christian, so any government-sponsored religious activities (which are almost invariably Christian) offend me. America is a multinational country, and regardless of whether the Constitution or Declaration of Independence says, I think that the government should not handle itself in religion at all. Our country is now many years after George Washington, and the phrase that the bible would keep the country from failing now doesn't apply anymore.

the thing was that back in those days to avoid war you had to be for all extents and purposes a christian nation
after experiencing the war that gave them independence they probably didn't want another one while their teeth were being cut
nowadays we're more civilised then that and won't go to war with religion as a reason

jvvg wrote:
In fact, if the bible is kept, then that might cause major problems when people like me get mad at the government for doing religious stuff like starting Congress each day with a prayer (that should be done away with) or people having to swear on a bible in court. It really annoys me that America seems to have become a Christian nation, while it is supposed to be accepting to all religions. All of this religious stuff being done by the government goes actively against it. They are saying that America is a place for all religions, as long as they are Christian. As someone who is Jewish, that offends me greatly.

okay so about the court thing do you not have a choice of holy books? i know from my court experiences in the uk you can 'affirm' to tell the truth and there's a selection of science books and ones from all of the major religions (ie religions that are recognised on the census+buddhism but not jedi)

jvvg wrote:
Another topic semi-related to this is that it also annoys me that some people don't like Romney because he's a Mormon. While I don't like Romney much (because of his political views and ideas, not because of his religion), I thought that the people of America would be mature enough to not get mad at him because of his religion. Seriously, America, we are better than that.

i think the reason people don't like mormons is because they're mysterious and the unknown is scary and so on

veggieman001 · 2012-10-10 03:42:54

people may take an affirmation instead, actually

16Skittles · 2012-10-10 07:37:52

jvvg wrote:
Another topic semi-related to this is that it also annoys me that some people don't like Romney because he's a Mormon. While I don't like Romney much (because of his political views and ideas, not because of his religion), I thought that the people of America would be mature enough to not get mad at him because of his religion. Seriously, America, we are better than that.

Not surprising to me, considering that some republicans are lying about Obama being Muslim and born in Kenya.

jvvg · 2012-10-10 07:41:49

16Skittles wrote:
jvvg wrote:
Another topic semi-related to this is that it also annoys me that some people don't like Romney because he's a Mormon. While I don't like Romney much (because of his political views and ideas, not because of his religion), I thought that the people of America would be mature enough to not get mad at him because of his religion. Seriously, America, we are better than that.
Not surprising to me, considering that some republicans are lying about Obama being Muslim and born in Kenya.

The Kenya part was just made up because people want him lout of office.
For my opinion on the Muslim Part, see what I posted about 2 pages ago.

16Skittles · 2012-10-10 08:31:56

jvvg wrote:
16Skittles wrote:
jvvg wrote:
Another topic semi-related to this is that it also annoys me that some people don't like Romney because he's a Mormon. While I don't like Romney much (because of his political views and ideas, not because of his religion), I thought that the people of America would be mature enough to not get mad at him because of his religion. Seriously, America, we are better than that.
Not surprising to me, considering that some republicans are lying about Obama being Muslim and born in Kenya.
The Kenya part was just made up because people want him lout of office.
For my opinion on the Muslim Part, see what I posted about 2 pages ago.

Of course I know that it's wrong, but unsurprising really.

werdna123 · 2012-10-10 10:57:19

Who even cares if Obama is a Muslim or not?

veggieman001 · 2012-10-10 11:11:25

bigots of religion

soupoftomato · 2012-10-10 11:16:03

werdna123 wrote:
Who even cares if Obama is a Muslim or not?

But if he's a Muslim then he's the Anti-Christ then he'll bomb us all and then he'll destroy the world! /s

Even if that made sense in some alternate universe, I don't think he'd want to take so long he has to rely on being elected twice to enact his plan. tongue

jvvg · 2012-10-10 11:39:19

werdna123 wrote:
Who even cares if Obama is a Muslim or not?

Some of the Republicans are quite racist. Them.

Anyway, like I said before, nobody should care.

transparent · 2012-10-10 11:39:40

Yeah, I knew some people that thought something similar to that. I don't think he'd wait another 4 years, though someone else might. hmm

yousmiledatme · 2012-10-10 12:24:31

werdna123 wrote:
Who even cares if Obama is a Muslim or not?

i totes do
totes
i mean like that'd mean america was multinational and that would be bad because that would mean progress >:I

CheeseMunchy · 2012-10-10 12:44:18

jvvg wrote:
werdna123 wrote:
Who even cares if Obama is a Muslim or not?
Some of the Republicans are quite racist. Them.

Not only Republicans can be racist.

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cartooncreator · 2012-10-10 12:56:52

CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:
werdna123 wrote:
Who even cares if Obama is a Muslim or not?
Some of the Republicans are quite racist. Them.
Not only Republicans can be racist.

+1
Stacey Dash (she's like a movie star or something) endorsed Mitt Romney in a tweet, and she got all this hate. Do you think that hate was from Republicans? hmm

mythbusteranimator · 2012-10-10 12:59:44

maybe.

jvvg · 2012-10-10 13:12:04

cartooncreator wrote:
CheeseMunchy wrote:
jvvg wrote:
Some of the Republicans are quite racist. Them.
Not only Republicans can be racist.
+1
Stacey Dash (she's like a movie star or something) endorsed Mitt Romney in a tweet, and she got all this hate. Do you think that hate was from Republicans?

Who is that?
Whoever she is, I seriously doubt the hate was for her race.

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