Scratch

Well... Is it only the variable watchers that slow it down? I could fix that I think.

On the RaspberryPI, things slow down (CPU usage goes thru roof) just by simply creating variables (which automatically displays them)
The load is high even if you do nothing else 
Untick displaying them and things are a lot better 
"Variable watchers" sounds like a very likely name for the culprit 
So glad to get a quality Scratcher going on this 
Simon

Your modified image uses much less CPU in Windows XP    but won't work on my RaspberryPi
(To be fair No modified Scratch image that I can download does - they all give a black screen where Scratch should be    )
Since you prob don't have a RaspberryPi yet, could you baby step me through the changes needed so I can try to mod the Scratch.image on the RaspberryPi?

Great stuff so far though - look VERY promising 

Simon

Yes -I copied your image to /usr/share/scratch/Scratch.image and then just ran the desktop shortcut - black screen - when I put the orig back - its OK again 

I've been previously experimenting with other Scratch mods - Sense and S4A  and they don't work either - of course it could just be me!

I've not got into Scratch on Linux previously so I don't know what the issues are but it def seems that the squeak VM environment isn't as VM as it could be 

We need to find Linux Scratch gurus - know any? 

Simon
[edit]path edited[/edit]

Last edited by SimpleScratch (2012-08-21 19:59:00)

You mean I should tell you how to mod Scratch?    I could give you a change set to import...

@Magnie well its not easier than replacing the actual Scratch image and it doesn't make any diff - still doesn't work 

Simon

Try to file this in then: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6274273/working.1.cs

Uploading youtube video... xD

Wow, that video's fast.    And it's hard to tell that you're actually Shift+clicking "R", and that...

While waiting for MathWhizz I found this

: How do I import goodies/changesets/programs into my image?

A: From the World Menu select "open..." and "file list". Choose the path and filename of the .st or .cs file in the upper-right pane. In this same file list pane, bring up the pop-up menu (middle mouse button) and choose "file into new changeset" to import all the code into your image.

Which gets the changes into my image and the modded Scratch seems MUCH better 
But then having trouble saving this modified image without squeak telling me that

cannot locate sources file named /usr/lib/squeak/4/4/7-2357/SqueakV2.sources

Hopefully this is just a minor glitch

Simon

SimpleScratch wrote:

Ok - 1 step further - after I did the "file into new changeset" instruction above I then did Shift-ClickR and save image for end user and then I seemed to have a nice new image.
[deleted wrong info]

AND ALL SEEMS OK 

Now need to test it out with a few people and then HOW do we go about getting the big boys and girls at Scratch HQ to bless the changes as a bug-fix and not a mod?

@MathWhizz - THANK YOU VERY MUCH 

Simon

Glad to help. 
It is interesting that nothing happened for you when you pasted it though...
Did you select all the text first?

Last edited by MathWizz (2012-08-22 09:37:31)

SimpleScratch wrote:

The pasting worked fine - its what do you do next having pasted it (Your video is very fast and doesn't show what sort of click where    )
If you could let  us know - it'd be useful info for future 

I pasted it, selected it all, then right clicked on the text.

SimpleScratch wrote:

Also, could you give us a few words on what the problem was and what you did to fix it (as squeak is still a foreign language to me mostly)

Simon

Every frame, the watcher resizes itself. I changed it to only resize when it changes.

Last edited by MathWizz (2012-08-22 10:27:01)