Scratch

Hmm... Seems like it would be good.
But I don't really want to download anything (fear of viruses, nothing about you). Could you post some screenshots, maybe even a video, when its done?

But on a larger scale (uses the entire scratch display).

I'm ok with that. The reason my project was so small was for the ->code to have a relatively short code.

Magnie wrote:

Molybdenum wrote:

Hmm... Seems like it would be good.
But I don't really want to download anything (fear of viruses, nothing about you). Could you post some screenshots, maybe even a video, when its done?

Understandable, but just so you know, as long as you don't run any unknown programs, then viruses are highly unlikely. I'll see about making a video. (I'll need to find some desktop recording software.)

Molybdenum wrote:

But on a larger scale (uses the entire scratch display).

I'm ok with that. The reason my project was so small was for the ->code to have a relatively short code.

Yeah, I figured that. I'm thinking of increasing the pixel size, and adding restrictions so it only adds a pixel if it's on the display (since it adds any clicks outside of the display). Any ideas?

@Vid
Ok.

@Restrictions.
I let the clicks be added outside in case anyone had leftover bits (to waste/discard them without ruining the picture). But if you can add as many bits as you want for your script, then I suppose that would be good.

Last edited by Molybdenum (2012-08-15 20:21:41)

So I'm not the only one discarding thir server, completely rewriting it, and giving it a cooler name? I'd like a bit more info on LSTC.

Magnie wrote:

Molybdenum wrote:

@Restrictions.
I let the clicks be added outside in case anyone had leftover bits (to waste/discard them without ruining the picture). But if you can add as many bits as you want for your script, then I suppose that would be good.

There's technically an "infinite" number of bits on an infinite display field. 99999- xy through 99999 xy. 

The main problem with this though, is initially loading the image (or whenever you click the green flag). To send each pixel at a speed that Scratch can handle, is about 0.1. So it will take from 1 to 5 minutes to load the image (it takes about 30 seconds to load the images I've been testing, which are just random pixels and a single word like "Test" and "Hi!"). So that'll be the only limitation. Otherwise, the speed in placing and removing a pixel is at a pretty comfortable level.

Hmm... Don't have much to say, but maybe you can tell people to turn on turbo?

Magnie wrote:

For those of you really following everything I'm doing, you know three things. One, I'm building Scratch Space 2 (or the new name 'Little Server That Can' aka 'LSTC'). Two, I'm coding Chat.PY 3.0 and three, I'm creating a live version of Molybdenum's 50 Bits project. (Virtual Space still needs some *serious* planning, so it will be a while till I even have a base for it.)

LSTC

This is very nearly complete. At the moment it is fully functional, and as stable and secure as I can see. Technically, I can release it at this very moment.

Chat.PY 3.0

Very nearly done. I could release it right now, but I feel it's missing some key features (of which I don't know what those are). The differences between 3.0 and 2, is that in 3, you can be in multiple rooms at the same time and that there is no Scratch Authentication (and for me, it feels very different from an admin/developer's point of view).

Bit Art

Bit Art is a live version of Molybdenum's 50 Bits project. But on a larger scale (uses the entire scratch display). A few problems with it at the moment though, is that, for some reason, I can't get the saving and loading to work without errors at the moment.

I could release Bit Art right now (I really want to so I can play/draw with you guys), but that would require taking down Chat.PY 2.0 and releasing Chat.PY 3.0, which at the moment I'm not ready for.

But the reason I make this post, is to prepare for releasing Chat.PY 3.0 and Bit Art. I would like everyone that can, to host a local server for both Chat.PY 3.0 and Bit Art, and I want them to test each one and then report your results and feedback here.

You get download the zip here. It contains LSTC, chat3.py, bit_art.py, and both projects for each of them.

How can I host chat 3.0 and bit art?

lallaway12 wrote:

How can I host chat 3.0 and bit art?

1. Install Python (if it's not already installed)
2. Download the .zip and extract it
3. Run server.py
4. Test it (open Scratch, enable Mesh, connect to 127.0.0.1) and do some simple tests. Chat.PY 3.0: post a couple messages. Bit Art: Place a few pixels.
5. Find your internal IP address for the computer you are hosting the server on. Windows: Open the command prompt and type 'ipconfig' and look for inet addr and . Remember that. (On Linux and Mac, type 'ifconfig).
6. Open a web-browser, copy your inet address and replace the last number with a '1' (no quotes). Then login.
7. In your router port forward 42001 to the IP you copied. (TCP)
8. Go to http://www.whatismyip.com/ and then you can tell people to connect to that IP.
9. Leave the computer on 24/7 and do maintenance on it at least once a week.    Unless you are very sure nothing will go wrong (like me). 

For security reasons, I suggest looking for a service (domain preferably) that hides your real IP, unless you are hosting the server on a VPS. Like http://no-ip.com. 

Since home IP address (generally) change at least once a week, you'll need to either update your IP manually every time it changes or write a script to do so.

ohaiderstudios wrote:

Do any of the commands for C2 work for C3? If so, which ones, so that I can test it to my utmost ability.

When I type "/" nothing happens, so I'm not sure what the syntax would be either.

It's /cmd [arg1] [arg2]    No / enter join enter channel enter. Just /join channel. 

ohaiderstudios wrote:

EDIT:
Tried out the Bit Art thingy and I LOVE IT SOOOOOOOO MUCH I CAN'T WAIT TO DRAW WITH EVERYONE!

Yeah, lots of thanks to Molybdenum for the idea, now you can see why I want to get this ready ASAP! 

ohaiderstudios wrote:

Magnie wrote:

ohaiderstudios wrote:

EDIT:
Tried out the Bit Art thingy and I LOVE IT SOOOOOOOO MUCH I CAN'T WAIT TO DRAW WITH EVERYONE!

Yeah, lots of thanks to Molybdenum for the idea, now you can see why I want to get this ready ASAP! 

Can you make it more of a freestyle drawing thing? Because it gets tiring changing the image bit by bit.

I can change the client to do that, but making a truly freestyle drawing game doesn't work (I tried it with Mesh, and you can't draw circles with it for some weird reason).

ohaiderstudios wrote:

Magnie wrote:

ohaiderstudios wrote:

Can you make it more of a freestyle drawing thing? Because it gets tiring changing the image bit by bit.

I can change the client to do that, but making a truly freestyle drawing game doesn't work (I tried it with Mesh, and you can't draw circles with it for some weird reason).

Hmmm...   Oh well, it's just a little too hard to actually do anything with it. at least make it so that you can change pixels just by dragging and clicking. instead of individual clicking.

Oh, and also, it's kinda lonely over on Chat.PY 2.0, so if anyone would like to join me, we can talk about this in real time! 

Yeah, I can probably add that feature.

ohaiderstudios wrote:

Magnie wrote:

ohaiderstudios wrote:

Hmmm...   Oh well, it's just a little too hard to actually do anything with it. at least make it so that you can change pixels just by dragging and clicking. instead of individual clicking.

Oh, and also, it's kinda lonely over on Chat.PY 2.0, so if anyone would like to join me, we can talk about this in real time! 

Yeah, I can probably add that feature.

You could also make a button that toggles white/black instead of making it so that clicking switches the color

EDIT: Sorry for all the suggestions, but I'm just giving you my honest opinion as a consumer 

It's fine. I needed suggestions. 

zippynk wrote:

/help isn't working (if I remembered the command right).

p.s.

Ohaider wrote:

Oh, and also, it's kinda lonely over on Chat.PY 2.0

I'm on now, I'm not sure if you're idling or a ghost 

EDIT: And also, my sig...

Last edited by ohaiderstudios (2012-08-18 11:58:47)

Magnie and me on BitArt...random musings.

EDIT:
The thing on your left is a kingdom...but the roads got kinda damaged 

Last edited by ohaiderstudios (2012-08-18 18:17:31)