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#26 2012-07-16 22:19:31

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

Jackieee wrote:

Wickimen wrote:

Meet Johnny. Johnny is twelve. Johnny goes to middle school and is in seventh grade. Johnny is totally rad. He knows he’s rad because he watches cool movies and plays cool games. Johnny got to watch R-rated movies in the third grade. He is aware this makes him very mature for his age, and therefore he can do anything! Have you seen the latest movies? Well, Johnny has. He’s seen all of them. Violence is no longer all that exciting. That blood and guts look really fake. Those screams are just actors. Johnny fears nothing!
    Johnny knows a lot about drugs and stuff because he sees them in the movies. Johnny jokes about them with his friends a lot. That’s because he’s so cool. Would Johnny do drugs? No, of course not! Drugs are bad for you. But Johnny is a rebel, so he can talk about them. He’s played lots of video games, and enjoys stabbing and shooting virtually. It isn’t like he’s actually hurting people, but it’s still so awesome. And he has so much experience with the real world by facing a cold reality in these amazing games. This causes Johnny to gain popularity for his maturity and awesomeness. Man, Johnny is such a cool dude.

Basically my opinion written like that very sarcastically and badly because I just felt like it

...What??

(translation: it causes some level of arrogance and desensitization in many cases [at my school at least] but I don't think it causes much actual violence)

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#27 2012-07-16 22:21:32

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

Jackieee wrote:

Wickimen wrote:

Meet Johnny. Johnny is twelve. Johnny goes to middle school and is in seventh grade. Johnny is totally rad. He knows he’s rad because he watches cool movies and plays cool games. Johnny got to watch R-rated movies in the third grade. He is aware this makes him very mature for his age, and therefore he can do anything! Have you seen the latest movies? Well, Johnny has. He’s seen all of them. Violence is no longer all that exciting. That blood and guts look really fake. Those screams are just actors. Johnny fears nothing!
    Johnny knows a lot about drugs and stuff because he sees them in the movies. Johnny jokes about them with his friends a lot. That’s because he’s so cool. Would Johnny do drugs? No, of course not! Drugs are bad for you. But Johnny is a rebel, so he can talk about them. He’s played lots of video games, and enjoys stabbing and shooting virtually. It isn’t like he’s actually hurting people, but it’s still so awesome. And he has so much experience with the real world by facing a cold reality in these amazing games. This causes Johnny to gain popularity for his maturity and awesomeness. Man, Johnny is such a cool dude.

Basically my opinion written like that very sarcastically and badly because I just felt like it

...What??

i think this means that although kids may watch violent movies and play gory games they wont stab people to death in the real world

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#28 2012-07-16 22:31:24

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

CheeseMunchy wrote:

This is a kids site, not sure we should be discussing this stuff. :p

Well it's not like we're saying drugs are cool or anything.


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#29 2012-07-16 22:36:02

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

It depends.

It mainly depends on the child and the maturity level of that child. If the child is very mature for their age, then I don't think it affects them too much, but if the kid was immature it would probably affect them more, and vice verca.


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#30 2012-07-16 22:39:19

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

CheeseMunchy wrote:

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Parents who do not discipline their children and let them be affected by media should end up behind bars. I cannot stand cruel children.

psst, I think you mean "throw my hands" in your sig.

No, I am pretty sure it is "I throw my hands up in the air sometimes" I relistened to Dinomite.

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#31 2012-07-16 22:43:57

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

Wickimen wrote:

Jackieee wrote:

Wickimen wrote:

Meet Johnny. Johnny is twelve. Johnny goes to middle school and is in seventh grade. Johnny is totally rad. He knows he’s rad because he watches cool movies and plays cool games. Johnny got to watch R-rated movies in the third grade. He is aware this makes him very mature for his age, and therefore he can do anything! Have you seen the latest movies? Well, Johnny has. He’s seen all of them. Violence is no longer all that exciting. That blood and guts look really fake. Those screams are just actors. Johnny fears nothing!
    Johnny knows a lot about drugs and stuff because he sees them in the movies. Johnny jokes about them with his friends a lot. That’s because he’s so cool. Would Johnny do drugs? No, of course not! Drugs are bad for you. But Johnny is a rebel, so he can talk about them. He’s played lots of video games, and enjoys stabbing and shooting virtually. It isn’t like he’s actually hurting people, but it’s still so awesome. And he has so much experience with the real world by facing a cold reality in these amazing games. This causes Johnny to gain popularity for his maturity and awesomeness. Man, Johnny is such a cool dude.

Basically my opinion written like that very sarcastically and badly because I just felt like it

...What??

(translation: it causes some level of arrogance and desensitization in many cases [at my school at least] but I don't think it causes much actual violence)

i was arrogant to begin with

even in my mother's womb i must have been like "im the best baby"

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#32 2012-07-17 11:45:07

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

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Agreed. It isn't just movies, it's tv shows and games. mainly video games. The other day, i was at Gamestop to pre-order Mario for the 3ds. I saw a kid who looked like he was in preschool or in the early years of elementary and he was buying BLACK OPS.

My heart cried a little.

That's just... wow... Even though I was able to play SOME games (Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory was the only one I played) like that when I was around that age I was only able to play when I was playing with someone else with me. I still recognized it as just a game. But still.... BUYING BLACK OPS??? I remember at the movie theater hearing a little girl saying she wanted to see the vampire movie (It wasn't Twilight but rather Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter).


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#33 2012-07-17 12:03:43

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

Animeboy975 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:

Animeboy975 wrote:

Agreed. It isn't just movies, it's tv shows and games. mainly video games. The other day, i was at Gamestop to pre-order Mario for the 3ds. I saw a kid who looked like he was in preschool or in the early years of elementary and he was buying BLACK OPS.

My heart cried a little.

It's the majority now. Game ratings just don't matter anymore.

And I also agree that video games are the worst. Because of their interactiveness, it really does affect children a lot.

Yeah. I'm the only kid in MY WHOLE GRADE last year that still played Mario.

Everything else is bad too. I hate how little kids act all mature.

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#34 2012-07-17 12:10:02

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

wolvesstar97 wrote:

Animeboy975 wrote:

jji7skyline wrote:


It's the majority now. Game ratings just don't matter anymore.

And I also agree that video games are the worst. Because of their interactiveness, it really does affect children a lot.

Yeah. I'm the only kid in MY WHOLE GRADE last year that still played Mario.

Everything else is bad too. I hate how little kids act all mature.

sad


I play CoD sometimes, but I mostly play the classics, like Zelda and Mario.
I also play CastleMiner and CastleMiner Z which are building and mining games.

Psst, Minecraft.


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#35 2012-07-17 12:17:51

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

I think that video games are good for many things. Most require strategy and concentration. Some are educational. Even Call of Duty requires a lot of strategy.

HOWEVER, I think that games like Call of Duty should be reserved not to an age group, but to a maturity level. Because if you aren't mature enough to not take games like that seriously, you shouldn't be playing them. If you want to play video games, get out a platformer like Mario! Play Zelda! If you like LOTR, play the old GameCube Hobbit game!
Then when you're mature enough, you can play games like Call of Duty for fun.

Movies.
I have quite a few bones to pick with The Hunger Games, not only because of its (lack of) plot, but for the age group it's suggested for.
But I'll resist.

If young kids watch violent movies with blood and screams, eventually they'll get desensitized.
Problem? Yes.
If they get desensitized to blood and screams, it's because they gain a lack of empathy for the people dying.
If they loose empathy for death, that makes them more likely to lose empathy for other   things too.
That is a problem.

So, I dont want to rant too long.


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#36 2012-07-17 12:40:45

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

It's easy to take any game and make it sound educational or somehow beneficial, you could say Halo and TF2 are simply strategy games that can educate a child on strategy and thinking. That being, I think you can pin-point at least one educational benefit from every video game/film, but it's not about that since anything can be educational. It's really about whether a game/film ends out having a more positive or negative affect on a child. I generally think that most video games have a larger negative impact than a positive one on children, so I think we're headed in the wrong direction.

However, I believe that balance is the key to 90% of things in life, that not everything that we think of being "bad", like video games, should just be banned. I think there's a medium, a balance point we can achieve in media for children. Rather than having extremely violent video games being used to desensitize children completely, I think we can allow children to understand violence without making it something that children might want to try out themselves. 

My direct opinion on the topic subject is yes, I think media is a huge factor that comes into play in a child's behavior. But as I said above, I don't think it all needs to be censored, just be met half way.

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#37 2012-07-17 12:49:24

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

It affects people overall, including but not limited to children, and some more than others. That's my opinion.


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#38 2012-07-17 12:59:26

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

stevetheipad wrote:

It's easy to take any game and make it sound educational or somehow beneficial, you could say Halo and TF2 are simply strategy games that can educate a child on strategy and thinking. That being, I think you can pin-point at least one educational benefit from every video game/film, but it's not about that since anything can be educational. It's really about whether a game/film ends out having a more positive or negative affect on a child. I generally think that most video games have a larger negative impact than a positive one on children, so I think we're headed in the wrong direction.

However, I believe that balance is the key to 90% of things in life, that not everything that we think of being "bad", like video games, should just be banned. I think there's a medium, a balance point we can achieve in media for children. Rather than having extremely violent video games being used to desensitize children completely, I think we can allow children to understand violence without making it something that children might want to try out themselves. 

My direct opinion on the topic subject is yes, I think media is a huge factor that comes into play in a child's behavior. But as I said above, I don't think it all needs to be censored, just be met half way.

We shouldn't censor anything.

Idiot parents should just learn what the ratings on the box mean.

Because now, parents have started to turn and go crazy against companies even though they are the ones buying 8 year olds things suggested for an age group of 17 and up.

Now obviously, it's not a strict guideline, but at least do some research and understand your child's level of maturity before purchasing them a game.


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#39 2012-07-17 13:02:34

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

wolvesstar97 wrote:

I think that video games are good for many things. Most require strategy and concentration. Some are educational. Even Call of Duty requires a lot of strategy.

HOWEVER, I think that games like Call of Duty should be reserved not to an age group, but to a maturity level. Because if you aren't mature enough to not take games like that seriously, you shouldn't be playing them. If you want to play video games, get out a platformer like Mario! Play Zelda! If you like LOTR, play the old GameCube Hobbit game!
Then when you're mature enough, you can play games like Call of Duty for fun.

Movies.
I have quite a few bones to pick with The Hunger Games, not only because of its (lack of) plot, but for the age group it's suggested for.
But I'll resist.

If young kids watch violent movies with blood and screams, eventually they'll get desensitized.
Problem? Yes.
If they get desensitized to blood and screams, it's because they gain a lack of empathy for the people dying.
If they loose empathy for death, that makes them more likely to lose empathy for other   things too.
That is a problem.

So, I dont want to rant too long.

Nothing is inherently wrong with blood and screaming.

Blood is shown when you get a cut. You get cut during surgery which are life saving operations.

Screaming can happen when you are scared, yes, but it's also a sign of happiness and just surprise. Most people on rollercoasters aren't screaming because they are scared, it's just something you do on them. And when people see they got a new car on a gameshow, much happy screaming ensues.

Basically, it's possible a movie desensitizes you to the idea of murder, robbery, etc. but I also find things like that tend to have repercussions in many things. Which isn't always true, particularly in action movies, but it's worth noting.


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#40 2012-07-17 13:40:32

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

stevetheipad wrote:

It's easy to take any game and make it sound educational or somehow beneficial, you could say Halo and TF2 are simply strategy games that can educate a child on strategy and thinking. That being, I think you can pin-point at least one educational benefit from every video game/film, but it's not about that since anything can be educational. It's really about whether a game/film ends out having a more positive or negative affect on a child. I generally think that most video games have a larger negative impact than a positive one on children, so I think we're headed in the wrong direction.

However, I believe that balance is the key to 90% of things in life, that not everything that we think of being "bad", like video games, should just be banned. I think there's a medium, a balance point we can achieve in media for children. Rather than having extremely violent video games being used to desensitize children completely, I think we can allow children to understand violence without making it something that children might want to try out themselves. 

My direct opinion on the topic subject is yes, I think media is a huge factor that comes into play in a child's behavior. But as I said above, I don't think it all needs to be censored, just be met half way.

We shouldn't censor anything.

Idiot parents should just learn what the ratings on the box mean.

Because now, parents have started to turn and go crazy against companies even though they are the ones buying 8 year olds things suggested for an age group of 17 and up.

Now obviously, it's not a strict guideline, but at least do some research and understand your child's level of maturity before purchasing them a game.

Censored wasn't meant to be taken literally in this instance. I simply ment that there's a half way point between no violence in media at all and anything being available easily to all children.

I agree that parents generally don't take enough time to check out games before they buy them for their kids, but the subject of parenting could derail this particular subject, so let's stay on the media track.


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#41 2012-07-17 14:06:20

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

It's obvious in my school, as you are unpopular if you like classics like Mario, Zelda, and even Pong. At most, I'll play a game like Halo reach, which isn't graphic. Normally I play games like Mario, Kirby, Pokemon, the like, I actually don't like CoD. Though last year we HAD to take a class called D.A.R.E. which is a big anti-drug class. That started talk about drugs during free period.


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#42 2012-07-17 14:11:36

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

Daroach1 wrote:

It's obvious in my school, as you are unpopular if you like classics like Mario, Zelda, and even Pong. At most, I'll play a game like Halo reach, which isn't graphic. Normally I play games like Mario, Kirby, Pokemon, the like, I actually don't like CoD. Though last year we HAD to take a class called D.A.R.E. which is a big anti-drug class. That started talk about drugs during free period.

+1

I personally, don't like Cod either.  My school is good though, Most of my friends like kirby and mario.


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#43 2012-07-17 14:13:38

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

Yes, of course.

But it isn't the only factor affecting kids behaviour... parents, education, peers, community are some examples.

I think it is unlikely that it would be only based on the kid him/herself.


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#44 2012-07-17 14:15:01

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Yeah, peer pressure is also a big factor.


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#45 2012-07-17 14:37:14

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

I would agree. My dad, I would say, is really overprotective. He won't even let me play many T-rated video games. Which is sorta weird, because he lets me watch a whole bunch of PG-13 movies, and even a few R movies. I once played COD at a friend's house, and I have to say, I absolutely hated it. It was sadistic and barbaric. I can't believe that kids nowadays play those games thinking it's "cool". I don't think they're gonna go out into the world one day and become a serial killer or criminal or something, but it could very well influence them.

Luckily, most of my friends don't enjoy COD either--most of them are more into Minecraft and Skyrim.

But back to what I was saying. My dad lets me watch a lot of PG-13 action movies and stuff. Like, whenever a new superhero movie or action movie comes in the theater, he'd take me to go see it, most of the time. I'm not allowed to watch most R-rated movies, but I've seen a few (i.e. Terminator 2, The Matrix, Speed, The King's Speech). And they didn't influence me too much. I've taken a particular interest in action movies now though.

Recently I asked my dad if I could see The Dark Knight, but he said no way. I asked him why, and he simply replied "it's too violent". So I said, "Well, you let me see a whole bunch of action movies, so why not this one?"

He turned to me and said, "You know, you could be influenced greatly by media. But not in a good way."

And as far as I can tell, he was right.


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#46 2012-07-17 14:40:21

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

777w wrote:

777w wrote:

imnotbob wrote:

THIS IS NOT A FLAME TOPIC. DO NOT FIGHT OVER THIS.

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I, personally, think it depends on the child.

+1

for the record, i was saying "+1" to "I, personally, think it depends on the child."
halo and cod and all that dont make me want to go on a killing rampage irl

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#47 2012-07-17 15:10:10

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

banana500 wrote:

I would agree. My dad, I would say, is really overprotective. He won't even let me play many T-rated video games. Which is sorta weird, because he lets me watch a whole bunch of PG-13 movies, and even a few R movies. I once played COD at a friend's house, and I have to say, I absolutely hated it. It was sadistic and barbaric. I can't believe that kids nowadays play those games thinking it's "cool". I don't think they're gonna go out into the world one day and become a serial killer or criminal or something, but it could very well influence them.

Luckily, most of my friends don't enjoy COD either--most of them are more into Minecraft and Skyrim.

But back to what I was saying. My dad lets me watch a lot of PG-13 action movies and stuff. Like, whenever a new superhero movie or action movie comes in the theater, he'd take me to go see it, most of the time. I'm not allowed to watch most R-rated movies, but I've seen a few (i.e. Terminator 2, The Matrix, Speed, The King's Speech). And they didn't influence me too much. I've taken a particular interest in action movies now though.

Recently I asked my dad if I could see The Dark Knight, but he said no way. I asked him why, and he simply replied "it's too violent". So I said, "Well, you let me see a whole bunch of action movies, so why not this one?"

He turned to me and said, "You know, you could be influenced greatly by media. But not in a good way."

And as far as I can tell, he was right.

But, like, Batman has an entire moral code revolving around never committing murder in the movies.


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#48 2012-07-17 15:58:56

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

One thing people don't seem to get is that it isn't so black and white. Its a huge mix of factors, not just 'kid plays halo and becomes a serial killer'. Its more complicated. But more often than not, media plays a supporting role in a child's behaviour.


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#49 2012-07-17 17:54:44

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

wiimaster wrote:

One thing people don't seem to get is that it isn't so black and white. Its a huge mix of factors, not just 'kid plays halo and becomes a serial killer'. Its more complicated. But more often than not, media plays a supporting role in a child's behaviour.

Right. The human mind is more complicated than that.


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#50 2012-07-17 19:13:46

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

banana500 wrote:

I would agree. My dad, I would say, is really overprotective. He won't even let me play many T-rated video games. Which is sorta weird, because he lets me watch a whole bunch of PG-13 movies, and even a few R movies. I once played COD at a friend's house, and I have to say, I absolutely hated it. It was sadistic and barbaric. I can't believe that kids nowadays play those games thinking it's "cool". I don't think they're gonna go out into the world one day and become a serial killer or criminal or something, but it could very well influence them.

Luckily, most of my friends don't enjoy COD either--most of them are more into Minecraft and Skyrim.

But back to what I was saying. My dad lets me watch a lot of PG-13 action movies and stuff. Like, whenever a new superhero movie or action movie comes in the theater, he'd take me to go see it, most of the time. I'm not allowed to watch most R-rated movies, but I've seen a few (i.e. Terminator 2, The Matrix, Speed, The King's Speech). And they didn't influence me too much. I've taken a particular interest in action movies now though.

Recently I asked my dad if I could see The Dark Knight, but he said no way. I asked him why, and he simply replied "it's too violent". So I said, "Well, you let me see a whole bunch of action movies, so why not this one?"

He turned to me and said, "You know, you could be influenced greatly by media. But not in a good way."

And as far as I can tell, he was right.

But, like, Batman has an entire moral code revolving around never committing murder in the movies.

I know, but I think he was referring to The Joker, or Two-Face.


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