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#251 2012-08-01 22:47:08

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

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Not my point  roll

You didn't understand it clearly. I was pointing out that anything you do in a video game is pretty stupid, so what makes shooting any different.

It's violent.

trees don't contain gore.

What makes it any different if it has blood or gore? You're still killing something, even if it is a tree. One could even make the argument that it's worse with no blood because blood and gore show more that they are really hurt and actions have effect.

Also trees could have sap.


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#252 2012-08-01 22:47:39

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:


You didn't understand it clearly. I was pointing out that anything you do in a video game is pretty stupid, so what makes shooting any different.

It's violent.

trees don't contain gore.

What makes it any different if it has blood or gore? You're still killing something, even if it is a tree. One could even make the argument that it's worse with no blood because blood and gore show more that they are really hurt and actions have effect.

Also trees could have sap.

plastic.

go shoot plastic.

happy?


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#253 2012-08-01 22:50:14

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:


It's violent.

trees don't contain gore.

What makes it any different if it has blood or gore? You're still killing something, even if it is a tree. One could even make the argument that it's worse with no blood because blood and gore show more that they are really hurt and actions have effect.

Also trees could have sap.

plastic.

go shoot plastic.

happy?

Fine, but that brings us to the point that killing virtual people isn't bad. If anything it's good, because it can let out aggression without harming real people.


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#254 2012-08-01 22:52:01

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:

What makes it any different if it has blood or gore? You're still killing something, even if it is a tree. One could even make the argument that it's worse with no blood because blood and gore show more that they are really hurt and actions have effect.

Also trees could have sap.

plastic.

go shoot plastic.

happy?

Fine, but that brings us to the point that killing virtual people isn't bad. If anything it's good, because it can let out aggression without harming real people.

Or make you WANT to kill real people


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#255 2012-08-01 22:52:49

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:


What makes it any different if it has blood or gore? You're still killing something, even if it is a tree. One could even make the argument that it's worse with no blood because blood and gore show more that they are really hurt and actions have effect.

Also trees could have sap.

plastic.

go shoot plastic.

happy?

Fine, but that brings us to the point that killing virtual people isn't bad. If anything it's good, because it can let out aggression without harming real people.

Also, the plastic might melt and someone could interpret that as blood.


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#256 2012-08-01 22:54:08

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

videogame9 wrote:

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:


plastic.

go shoot plastic.

happy?

Fine, but that brings us to the point that killing virtual people isn't bad. If anything it's good, because it can let out aggression without harming real people.

Also, the plastic might melt and someone could interpret that as blood.

i give up on this


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#257 2012-08-01 22:59:59

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:

plastic.

go shoot plastic.

happy?

Fine, but that brings us to the point that killing virtual people isn't bad. If anything it's good, because it can let out aggression without harming real people.

Or make you WANT to kill real people

Any case of murder reported by the media (which feeds on sensationalism and negativity) was actually just very deep psychological problems that may or may not have been finally burst out by playing a video game. And most of the time I doubt even the fact they were a gamer had an effect.

@latestpost: being just as logical as you . . .

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#258 2012-08-01 23:01:12

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:


Fine, but that brings us to the point that killing virtual people isn't bad. If anything it's good, because it can let out aggression without harming real people.

Or make you WANT to kill real people

Ohyeah, because we have so much proof for that being the SOLE factor of a murder.

Any case of murder reported by the media (which feeds on sensationalism and negativity) was actually just very deep psychological problems that may or may not have been finally burst out by playing a video game. And most of the time I doubt even the fact they were a gamer had an effect.

@latestpost: being just as logical as you . . .

You're sort of annoying me. bye


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#259 2012-08-01 23:02:49

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

funelephant wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

funelephant wrote:

Or make you WANT to kill real people

Ohyeah, because we have so much proof for that being the SOLE factor of a murder.

Any case of murder reported by the media (which feeds on sensationalism and negativity) was actually just very deep psychological problems that may or may not have been finally burst out by playing a video game. And most of the time I doubt even the fact they were a gamer had an effect.

@latestpost: being just as logical as you . . .

You're sort of annoying me. bye

Seriously, I'm not intentionally annoying you. The whole point of this topic is too discuss this and I'm not about to blindly accept whatever you say without any reasoning or logic.

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#260 2012-08-01 23:04:31

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

funelephant wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


Ohyeah, because we have so much proof for that being the SOLE factor of a murder.

Any case of murder reported by the media (which feeds on sensationalism and negativity) was actually just very deep psychological problems that may or may not have been finally burst out by playing a video game. And most of the time I doubt even the fact they were a gamer had an effect.

@latestpost: being just as logical as you . . .

You're sort of annoying me. bye

I'm so offended that you have no actual argument. D:

i don't really care because i know you're being sarcastic.


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#261 2012-08-01 23:05:33

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

funelephant wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

funelephant wrote:


You're sort of annoying me. bye

I'm so offended that you have no actual argument. D:

i don't really care because i know you're being sarcastic.

Second sentence of the post.


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#262 2012-08-01 23:06:09

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

funelephant wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

I'm so offended that you have no actual argument. D:

i don't really care because i know you're being sarcastic.

Second sentence of the post.

nah. too tired.

i still read it

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#263 2012-08-01 23:09:09

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

Oh my


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#264 2012-08-01 23:09:35

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

funelephant wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

funelephant wrote:


i don't really care because i know you're being sarcastic.

Second sentence of the post.

nah.

You're seriously disregarding everything I intended to be responded to about my post after all the unfair statements you've been making?

Do you just like to go in a topic, say the unpopular opinion, then provide no reasoning and waste peoples time?


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#265 2012-08-01 23:10:07

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

funelephant wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


Second sentence of the post.

nah.

You're seriously disregarding everything I intended to be responded to about my post after all the unfair statements you've been making?

Do you just like to go in a topic, say the unpopular opinion, then provide no reasoning and waste peoples time?

Look, I'm not forcing you to read my posts.


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#266 2012-08-01 23:10:28

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:

plastic.

go shoot plastic.

happy?

Fine, but that brings us to the point that killing virtual people isn't bad. If anything it's good, because it can let out aggression without harming real people.

Or make you WANT to kill real people

I play The Legend of Zelda, and I don't want to lift up bushes to find cash.

I play Mortal Kombat, and I don't want to rip someone's beating heart out.

I play Final Fantasy, and I don't want to ride around on a bird thing and get into fights with people I don't even see.

I play Katamari Damacy but I don't want to roll up everybody into a ball.

I play Super Mario and I don't want to jump into bricks.

I play Dr Mario but I don't just take a bunch of medication and expect it to solve every virus.

I play Mario Kart but I don't want to throw shells at other drivers.

I play all these odd, odd games that make you do crazy things. Yet I am a sane, stable person.


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#267 2012-08-01 23:11:35

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:

Fine, but that brings us to the point that killing virtual people isn't bad. If anything it's good, because it can let out aggression without harming real people.

Or make you WANT to kill real people

I play The Legend of Zelda, and I don't want to lift up bushes to find cash.

Do you break people's pots?


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#268 2012-08-01 23:11:45

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:


Fine, but that brings us to the point that killing virtual people isn't bad. If anything it's good, because it can let out aggression without harming real people.

Or make you WANT to kill real people

I play all these odd, odd games that make you do crazy things. Yet I am a sane, stable person.

Don't bother, they'll disregard it all.


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#269 2012-08-01 23:15:47

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:


Or make you WANT to kill real people

I play all these odd, odd games that make you do crazy things. Yet I am a sane, stable person.

Don't bother, they'll disregard it all.

OH MY GOD.
I meant just some people.

There are crazy people in this world.

And now go on and reply LOL HE'S JUST CRAZY.

I don't really care what you think of me or my opinions.


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#270 2012-08-01 23:17:15

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

Oh, my.
Let's look at the first sentence in the topic...


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#271 2012-08-01 23:18:03

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

funelephant wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

sanddude wrote:


I play all these odd, odd games that make you do crazy things. Yet I am a sane, stable person.

Don't bother, they'll disregard it all.

OH MY GOD.
I meant just some people.

There are crazy people in this world.

And now go on and reply LOL HE'S JUST CRAZY.

I don't really care what you think of me or my opinions.

"Nickleback produces enjoyable music" is a valid opinion no matter how much most people would agree with you

"Game may make you kill people" is not an opinion, but something you presented as a fact without support

Basic English class if you've ever had to write something persuasive.


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#272 2012-08-01 23:19:44

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

funelephant wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


Don't bother, they'll disregard it all.

OH MY GOD.
I meant just some people.

There are crazy people in this world.

And now go on and reply LOL HE'S JUST CRAZY.

I don't really care what you think of me or my opinions.

"Nickleback produces enjoyable music" is a valid opinion no matter how much most people would agree with you

"Game may make you kill people" is not an opinion, but something you presented as a fact without support

Basic English class if you've ever had to write something persuasive.

Yeah, I did actually.

Got an A


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#273 2012-08-01 23:23:29

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

funelephant wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

funelephant wrote:

OH MY GOD.
I meant just some people.

There are crazy people in this world.

And now go on and reply LOL HE'S JUST CRAZY.

I don't really care what you think of me or my opinions.

"Nickleback produces enjoyable music" is a valid opinion no matter how much most people would agree with you

"Game may make you kill people" is not an opinion, but something you presented as a fact without support

Basic English class if you've ever had to write something persuasive.

Yeah, I did actually.

Got an A

So, please, politely transfer some of that over here?

I don't want to flame, and never intended to, but I would like to hear your reasoning if you have it.

On another not, some posts have been reported and I'm prepared for both of us to be blamed if we can't start doing this nicer.

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#274 2012-08-01 23:25:19

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

funelephant wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


"Nickleback produces enjoyable music" is a valid opinion no matter how much most people would agree with you

"Game may make you kill people" is not an opinion, but something you presented as a fact without support

Basic English class if you've ever had to write something persuasive.

Yeah, I did actually.

Got an A

So, please, politely transfer some of that over here?

I don't want to flame, and never intended to, but I would like to hear your reasoning if you have it.

On another not, some posts have been reported and I'm prepared for both of us to be blamed if we can't start doing this nicer.

Okay.

I'm just saying, we all know there are crazy people out there.

Some of them do things in video games.

I'm not saying all.

Very few.


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#275 2012-08-01 23:29:34

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

imnotbob wrote:

THIS IS NOT A FLAME TOPIC. DO NOT FIGHT OVER THIS.

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