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#226 2012-07-31 20:04:04

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

777w wrote:

i would argue that mario is worse than most any war game because its basically one plumber taking down an army of millions. thats genocide right there

Actually, there are plenty of good Goombas and Koopas. Bowser has brainwashed the one you see in the game because they've been placed to block Mario's path.

according to ssbm though goombas are outlaws of the mushroom kingdom. either way, in the first game there are go good guys. plus the story is that all the princess's people have been turned to brick which means all the bricks youre smashing are living breathing beings

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#227 2012-07-31 20:07:06

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

777w wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

777w wrote:

i would argue that mario is worse than most any war game because its basically one plumber taking down an army of millions. thats genocide right there

Actually, there are plenty of good Goombas and Koopas. Bowser has brainwashed the one you see in the game because they've been placed to block Mario's path.

according to ssbm though goombas are outlaws of the mushroom kingdom. either way, in the first game there are go good guys. plus the story is that all the princess's people have been turned to brick which means all the bricks youre smashing are living breathing beings

Where is this story  yikes

And I think I was referring to the Paper games. GOSH NINTENDO GET A CANON

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#228 2012-07-31 20:09:50

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

777w wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Actually, there are plenty of good Goombas and Koopas. Bowser has brainwashed the one you see in the game because they've been placed to block Mario's path.

according to ssbm though goombas are outlaws of the mushroom kingdom. either way, in the first game there are go good guys. plus the story is that all the princess's people have been turned to brick which means all the bricks youre smashing are living breathing beings

Where is this story  yikes

the story with the goombas is the description for the goomba trophy and the mario story i first saw in a bitf comic. it says the same thing on wikipedia:

One day, King Bowser Koopa, the great and powerful leader of the militaristic Koopa Troop, invades the peaceful Mushroom Kingdom. He and his Koopa Troop are jealous of the beautiful kingdom, and King Bowser decides to take it for himself. To do this, Bowser casts an evil spell upon the kingdom and transforms all of its inhabitants into blocks, weeds, and other peculiar objects. It is foretold that only the Mushroom King's daughter Princess Toadstool can undo the spell. Knowing this, Bowser immediately kidnaps her. Fortunately, the heroic Mario Bros. learn about the Mushroom Kingdom's plight and race to its rescue.

wait a sec who is this "mushroom king"

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#229 2012-07-31 20:48:35

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

777w wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

777w wrote:


according to ssbm though goombas are outlaws of the mushroom kingdom. either way, in the first game there are go good guys. plus the story is that all the princess's people have been turned to brick which means all the bricks youre smashing are living breathing beings

Where is this story  yikes

the story with the goombas is the description for the goomba trophy and the mario story i first saw in a bitf comic. it says the same thing on wikipedia:

One day, King Bowser Koopa, the great and powerful leader of the militaristic Koopa Troop, invades the peaceful Mushroom Kingdom. He and his Koopa Troop are jealous of the beautiful kingdom, and King Bowser decides to take it for himself. To do this, Bowser casts an evil spell upon the kingdom and transforms all of its inhabitants into blocks, weeds, and other peculiar objects. It is foretold that only the Mushroom King's daughter Princess Toadstool can undo the spell. Knowing this, Bowser immediately kidnaps her. Fortunately, the heroic Mario Bros. learn about the Mushroom Kingdom's plight and race to its rescue.

wait a sec who is this "mushroom king"

well, you can't have a mushroom kingdom without a mushroom king


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#230 2012-08-01 14:46:04

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

Animeboy975 wrote:

wasabi56 wrote:

Animeboy975 wrote:

Agreed. It isn't just movies, it's tv shows and games. mainly video games. The other day, i was at Gamestop to pre-order Mario for the 3ds. I saw a kid who looked like he was in preschool or in the early years of elementary and he was buying BLACK OPS.

My heart cried a little.

That is horrible!
1. Where did he get the money
2. Why would his parents let him even let him buy that game!

1. IDK
2. Lazy and stupid parents
My guess.

BTW, My cousin's cousin [inception] is 7 and plays Assasin's Creed, and knows all the bad words :[ HATE our new generation.

BTW, My cousin and me HATE violent games. [my cousin is 9, 10 in 2 months]

Yeah, a person I know is in first grade and watches family guy and plays call of duty  mad
*sigh* what is the joy of virtually killing people.  sad

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#231 2012-08-01 14:50:11

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

Animeboy975 wrote:

wasabi56 wrote:

Animeboy975 wrote:

Agreed. It isn't just movies, it's tv shows and games. mainly video games. The other day, i was at Gamestop to pre-order Mario for the 3ds. I saw a kid who looked like he was in preschool or in the early years of elementary and he was buying BLACK OPS.

My heart cried a little.

That is horrible!
1. Where did he get the money
2. Why would his parents let him even let him buy that game!

1. IDK
2. Lazy and stupid parents
My guess.

BTW, My cousin's cousin [inception] is 7 and plays Assasin's Creed, and knows all the bad words :[ HATE our new generation.
BTW, My cousin and me HATE violent games. [my cousin is 9, 10 in 2 months]

I'm pretty sure that'd be your second cousin.

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#232 2012-08-01 14:56:43

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

wasabi56 wrote:

is in first grade and watches family guy and plays call of duty

This Is The Real Problem

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#233 2012-08-01 17:04:24

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

ilackoriginality wrote:

wasabi56 wrote:

is in first grade and watches family guy and plays call of duty

This Is The Real Problem

Well, I'd say that both are definitely problems... hmm


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#234 2012-08-01 17:12:12

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

wasabi56 wrote:

Animeboy975 wrote:

wasabi56 wrote:


That is horrible!
1. Where did he get the money
2. Why would his parents let him even let him buy that game!

1. IDK
2. Lazy and stupid parents
My guess.

BTW, My cousin's cousin [inception] is 7 and plays Assasin's Creed, and knows all the bad words :[ HATE our new generation.

BTW, My cousin and me HATE violent games. [my cousin is 9, 10 in 2 months]

*sigh* what is the joy of virtually killing people.  sad

I don't know about the 1st grader, but it's not that I find joy in killing people. It's the skill, storyline, and game aspect.


Besides it's not killing people it's playing a game.


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#235 2012-08-01 17:32:35

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

wasabi56 wrote:

Animeboy975 wrote:


1. IDK
2. Lazy and stupid parents
My guess.

BTW, My cousin's cousin [inception] is 7 and plays Assasin's Creed, and knows all the bad words :[ HATE our new generation.

BTW, My cousin and me HATE violent games. [my cousin is 9, 10 in 2 months]

*sigh* what is the joy of virtually killing people.  sad

I don't know about the 1st grader, but it's not that I find joy in killing people. It's the skill, storyline, and game aspect.


Besides it's not killing people it's playing a game.

Precisely.  I never thought a bit of soup, a bit of tomato, and a little sentience could speak the truth this well.

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#236 2012-08-01 21:36:07

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

wasabi56 wrote:

Animeboy975 wrote:

1. IDK
2. Lazy and stupid parents
My guess.

BTW, My cousin's cousin [inception] is 7 and plays Assasin's Creed, and knows all the bad words :[ HATE our new generation.

BTW, My cousin and me HATE violent games. [my cousin is 9, 10 in 2 months]

*sigh* what is the joy of virtually killing people.  sad

I don't know about the 1st grader, but it's not that I find joy in killing people. It's the skill, storyline, and game aspect.


Besides it's not killing people it's playing a game.

Draw faces on chess pieces.  Did that game just become excessively violent, sadistic, etc.? Like soupoftomato said, it's about the skill and the strategy.  I know a lot of people who play games with some pretty 'bad stuff' in them, and most of them are very empathetic and nice.  In my experience, the more involved with their kid and less lazy a parent is, the more over-rated (I'm talking about like under-17 playing M, not well criticized but bad games here) games they play.  And either way, we cannot 'shelter' children from so-called 'bad stuff.'  The only way that would be possible would be by preventing literally every crime, outlawing history, and literally removing profanity from language itself.  I'm not saying that it's okay for 7-year-olds to be play AO games.  I'm saying that such has no effect here.

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#237 2012-08-01 22:20:08

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

maxskywalker wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

wasabi56 wrote:


*sigh* what is the joy of virtually killing people.  sad

I don't know about the 1st grader, but it's not that I find joy in killing people. It's the skill, storyline, and game aspect.


Besides it's not killing people it's playing a game.

Draw faces on chess pieces.  Did that game just become excessively violent, sadistic, etc.? Like soupoftomato said, it's about the skill and the strategy.  I know a lot of people who play games with some pretty 'bad stuff' in them, and most of them are very empathetic and nice.  Will edit more in when on a computer.

Seriously.

Find any sort of general gaming community and the majority aren't like, "AW YEAH I CAN'T WAIT TO KILL ME SOME MORE PEEPS." If they do address death, their probably talking about the way a death affected the story-line of a game.

And while I can't speak for Call of Duty (it generally is played for the online component), I would say most find the fun in the game not the fact that they are killing people, but the fact that they are using their skill in gaming in a competition.


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#238 2012-08-01 22:22:14

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

maxskywalker wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


I don't know about the 1st grader, but it's not that I find joy in killing people. It's the skill, storyline, and game aspect.


Besides it's not killing people it's playing a game.

Draw faces on chess pieces.  Did that game just become excessively violent, sadistic, etc.? Like soupoftomato said, it's about the skill and the strategy.  I know a lot of people who play games with some pretty 'bad stuff' in them, and most of them are very empathetic and nice.  Will edit more in when on a computer.

Seriously.

Find any sort of general gaming community and the majority aren't like, "AW YEAH I CAN'T WAIT TO KILL ME SOME MORE PEEPS." If they do address death, their probably talking about the way a death affected the story-line of a game.

And while I can't speak for Call of Duty (it generally is played for the online component), I would say most find the fun in the game not the fact that they are killing people, but the fact that they are using their skill in gaming in a competition.

Some play it for the campaign, although it became less common after the first Modern Warfare.


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#239 2012-08-01 22:23:19

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

sanddude wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

maxskywalker wrote:


Draw faces on chess pieces.  Did that game just become excessively violent, sadistic, etc.? Like soupoftomato said, it's about the skill and the strategy.  I know a lot of people who play games with some pretty 'bad stuff' in them, and most of them are very empathetic and nice.  Will edit more in when on a computer.

Seriously.

Find any sort of general gaming community and the majority aren't like, "AW YEAH I CAN'T WAIT TO KILL ME SOME MORE PEEPS." If they do address death, their probably talking about the way a death affected the story-line of a game.

And while I can't speak for Call of Duty (it generally is played for the online component), I would say most find the fun in the game not the fact that they are killing people, but the fact that they are using their skill in gaming in a competition.

Some play it for the campaign, although it became less common after the first Modern Warfare.

I did say "generally" and was using generalizing the majority of players to provide my reasoning easier without actually leaving out facts.


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#240 2012-08-01 22:25:10

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

sanddude wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:


Seriously.

Find any sort of general gaming community and the majority aren't like, "AW YEAH I CAN'T WAIT TO KILL ME SOME MORE PEEPS." If they do address death, their probably talking about the way a death affected the story-line of a game.

And while I can't speak for Call of Duty (it generally is played for the online component), I would say most find the fun in the game not the fact that they are killing people, but the fact that they are using their skill in gaming in a competition.

Some play it for the campaign, although it became less common after the first Modern Warfare.

I did say "generally" and was using generalizing the majority of players to provide my reasoning easier without actually leaving out facts.

I wasn't trying to correct you, I was just pointing it out. Although you are wrong for the earlier games.


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#241 2012-08-01 22:27:00

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

zbugni wrote:

I was at a piano lesson, and my teachers little kid ran down and said "Mom, we should get game-fly!  There are hundreds of titles and we could save money!"
like directly quoting the commercial.
funny but disturbing.

My brother: "I wish we had friends at Cox. [this next sentence is where he quotes the commercial but this was a while ago so I don't remember it exactly] They'll set us up before we even move!"


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#242 2012-08-01 22:27:35

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

I really don't understand shooting games.

go shoot a tree or something.


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#243 2012-08-01 22:32:03

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

funelephant wrote:

I really don't understand shooting games.

go shoot a tree or something.

I don't understand fighting games.

Go punch a tree or something.

I don't understand platformers.

Go jump over a tree or something.

I don't understand stealth games.

Go sneak around a tree or something.

I don't understand dance games.

Go dance in a tree or something.

I don't understand singing games.

Go sing to a tree or something.


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#244 2012-08-01 22:33:24

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:

I really don't understand shooting games.

go shoot a tree or something.

[irrelevant chickens removed by moi]

Not my point  roll


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#245 2012-08-01 22:34:56

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:

I really don't understand shooting games.

go shoot a tree or something.

[irrelevant chickens removed by moi]

Not my point  roll

Uhm, it was.

You were blatantly disregarding all arguments for playing shooting games and provided an entirely in-equivalent activity as an alternative.


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#246 2012-08-01 22:36:46

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

soupoftomato wrote:

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:


[irrelevant chickens removed by moi]

Not my point  roll

Uhm, it was.

You were blatantly disregarding all arguments for playing shooting games and provided an entirely in-equivalent activity as an alternative.

How I read this post:
You were blaah... disregarding all arguments for playing blah an entirely in-e1blah activity as an alteblahtive.

Sorry but I did


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#247 2012-08-01 22:42:05

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

funelephant wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

funelephant wrote:


Not my point  roll

Uhm, it was.

You were blatantly disregarding all arguments for playing shooting games and provided an entirely in-equivalent activity as an alternative.

How I read this post:
You were blaah... disregarding all arguments for playing blah an entirely in-e1blah activity as an alteblahtive.

Sorry but I did

That has nothing to do with anything...


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#248 2012-08-01 22:42:24

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:

I really don't understand shooting games.

go shoot a tree or something.

[irrelevant chickens removed by moi]

Not my point  roll

You didn't understand it clearly. I was pointing out that anything you do in a video game is pretty stupid, so what makes shooting any different.


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#249 2012-08-01 22:43:38

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

imnotbob wrote:

funelephant wrote:

soupoftomato wrote:

Uhm, it was.

You were blatantly disregarding all arguments for playing shooting games and provided an entirely in-equivalent activity as an alternative.

How I read this post:
You were blaah... disregarding all arguments for playing blah an entirely in-e1blah activity as an alteblahtive.

Sorry but I did

That has nothing to do with anything...

I'm sorry  tongue
my brain gets tired when i try to read and post at 10PM


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#250 2012-08-01 22:44:52

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Re: Do you think media affect the way kids act?

sanddude wrote:

funelephant wrote:

sanddude wrote:

[irrelevant chickens removed by moi]

Not my point  roll

You didn't understand it clearly. I was pointing out that anything you do in a video game is pretty stupid, so what makes shooting any different.

It's violent.

trees don't contain gore.


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